Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated

[Sally]

Would Turkey really send planes up, or are they just talking tough?

Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated
ANKARA: Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Monday warned that Ankara would activate military rules of engagement irrespective of who violates its air space.
“Our rules of engagement are clear whoever violates our air space,” Davutoglu told Haber-Turk television in an interview after Turkish jets intercepted a Russian fighter which violated Turkish air space near the Syrian border.
“The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed. Even it is a flying bird it will be intercepted,” he added.
Davutoglu warned Turkey’s enemies and allies not to infringe its air space but he dismissed the notion of tensions with Russia.

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[Bleipriester]

lol

 

[Sally]

lol

Looks like the Little Shit doesn't need his sleep. Schizos get by with much less than normal people.

 

[tinydancer]

OMG Turkey has an air force? Oh we can soooooooooooooooo go Monty Python on this.



There is a John Cleese moment in here.

 

[Meathead]

OMG Turkey has an air force? Oh we can soooooooooooooooo go Monty Python on this.



There is a John Cleese moment in here.

Turkey has the largest military in Europe outside of Russia, air force included. I think they're about 5th in the world.

 

[tinydancer]

No no no

WKRP the turkey drop!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tinydancer]

OMG Turkey has an air force? Oh we can soooooooooooooooo go Monty Python on this.



There is a John Cleese moment in here.

Turkey has the largest military in Europe outside of Russia, air force included. I think they're about 5th in the world.

Qatar and the SA back them. I'm just having fun.

 

[tinydancer]

Ok let's do wkrp

The turkey OH MY GOD I THOUGHT THEY COULD FLY.

"WKRP in Cincinnati" Turkeys Away (TV Episode 1978) - IMDb

 

[cnm]

The interesting thing is that Syria could declare the same policy in regard to foreign aircraft in its airspace.

I mean it's now got a few Flanker-30s or whatever to enforce such a policy.

 

[waltky]

NATO ain't buyin' Russia's excuse...

Turkey Vows to Protect Borders after Russian Jet Incursion
Oct 05, 2015 — Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed Monday to take all necessary measures to protect Turkey's borders from violation after a Russian fighter jet entered its airspace over the weekend, prompting Turkey to scramble jets and summon the Russian ambassador in protest.

Russia admitted the plane had entered Turkey "by mistake" and assured Ankara it would not happen again, he said. But a senior U.S. official said the Obama administration does not believe the incursion was an accident, and officials are in urgent talks with allies about what to do. The official was not authorized to publicly discuss sensitive military matters and spoke on condition of anonymity. In Madrid, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Monday that the U.S. is conferring with Turkish leaders about the infringement. The incident comes amid Turkish concerns over Russian airstrikes in Syria that have targeted some foreign-backed insurgents. Turkey and Russia also have conflicting positions on the Syrian regime, with Russia backing President Bashar Assad and Turkey insisting on his ouster.

Davutoglu said during an interview with Haber Turk television that NATO-member Turkey would enforce its rules of engagement if its airspace is violated. Those rules call for the treatment of any element approaching the Turkish border from Syria as an enemy. "The Turkish Armed Forces have their orders," he said. "The necessary will be done even if it's a bird that violates Turkey's border ... Our rules of engagement are clear." A Foreign Ministry statement said Monday that a Russian warplane entered Turkey's airspace near the town of Yayladagi, in Hatay province on Saturday. Two F-16 jets intercepted the Russian aircraft and forced it to fly back into the Syrian airspace.

Also Monday, Turkey's military said a MIG-29 jet had harassed two Turkish F-16s for five minutes and 40 seconds on Sunday by locking its radar onto them. In a brief statement, the military said the incident occurred while 10 F-16s were patrolling the Turkish-Syrian border. The military said it did not know which country the MIG-29 belonged to. Turkey summoned the Russian ambassador and demanded that Russia avoid future infringements, the Foreign Ministry statement said. It warned that Russia would be held "responsible for any undesired incident," that may occur. The same message was also relayed to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov by telephone. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg expressed solidarity with Turkey and said the situation would be taken up at a meeting later on Monday.

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NATO rejects Russia explanation on Turkish air space
Tue Oct 6, 2015 - NATO on Tuesday rejected Moscow's explanation that its warplanes violated the air space of alliance member Turkey at the weekend by mistake and said Russia was sending more ground troops to Syria.

With Russia extending its air strikes to include the ancient city of Palmyra, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he was losing patience with Russian violations of his country's air space. "An attack on Turkey means an attack on NATO," Erdogan warned at a Brussels news conference. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had reports of a substantial Russian military build-up in Syria, including ground troops and ships in the eastern Mediterranean. "I will not speculate on the motives ... but this does not look like an accident and we have seen two of them," Stoltenberg said of the air incursions over Turkey's border with Syria. He noted that they "lasted for a long time".

The incidents, which NATO has described as "extremely dangerous" and "unacceptable", underscore the risks of a further escalation of the Syrian civil war, as Russian and U.S. warplanes fly combat missions over the same country for the first time since World War Two. The Russian Defense Ministry had said that an SU-30 warplane had entered Turkish air space along the border with Syria "for a few seconds" on Saturday, a mistake caused by bad weather. NATO says a plane also entered Turkish air space on Sunday, an incident Russia says it is looking into.

Stoltenberg declined to comment on whether the Russian planes had locked their radar on the F-16 Turkish jets scrambled on Saturday to remove Russian aircraft from the air space, usually a prelude to firing.

WAR OF WORDS

 

[montelatici]

Syria could implement the same engagement policy as Turkey over their air space and the Russians would enforce it. Could end up a mess.

 

[Rotagilla]

NATO ain't buyin' Russia's excuse...

Turkey Vows to Protect Borders after Russian Jet Incursion
Oct 05, 2015 — Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed Monday to take all necessary measures to protect Turkey's borders from violation after a Russian fighter jet entered its airspace over the weekend, prompting Turkey to scramble jets and summon the Russian ambassador in protest.

Russia admitted the plane had entered Turkey "by mistake" and assured Ankara it would not happen again, he said. But a senior U.S. official said the Obama administration does not believe the incursion was an accident, and officials are in urgent talks with allies about what to do. The official was not authorized to publicly discuss sensitive military matters and spoke on condition of anonymity. In Madrid, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Monday that the U.S. is conferring with Turkish leaders about the infringement. The incident comes amid Turkish concerns over Russian airstrikes in Syria that have targeted some foreign-backed insurgents. Turkey and Russia also have conflicting positions on the Syrian regime, with Russia backing President Bashar Assad and Turkey insisting on his ouster.

Davutoglu said during an interview with Haber Turk television that NATO-member Turkey would enforce its rules of engagement if its airspace is violated. Those rules call for the treatment of any element approaching the Turkish border from Syria as an enemy. "The Turkish Armed Forces have their orders," he said. "The necessary will be done even if it's a bird that violates Turkey's border ... Our rules of engagement are clear." A Foreign Ministry statement said Monday that a Russian warplane entered Turkey's airspace near the town of Yayladagi, in Hatay province on Saturday. Two F-16 jets intercepted the Russian aircraft and forced it to fly back into the Syrian airspace.

Also Monday, Turkey's military said a MIG-29 jet had harassed two Turkish F-16s for five minutes and 40 seconds on Sunday by locking its radar onto them. In a brief statement, the military said the incident occurred while 10 F-16s were patrolling the Turkish-Syrian border. The military said it did not know which country the MIG-29 belonged to. Turkey summoned the Russian ambassador and demanded that Russia avoid future infringements, the Foreign Ministry statement said. It warned that Russia would be held "responsible for any undesired incident," that may occur. The same message was also relayed to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov by telephone. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg expressed solidarity with Turkey and said the situation would be taken up at a meeting later on Monday.

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NATO rejects Russia explanation on Turkish air space
Tue Oct 6, 2015 - NATO on Tuesday rejected Moscow's explanation that its warplanes violated the air space of alliance member Turkey at the weekend by mistake and said Russia was sending more ground troops to Syria.

With Russia extending its air strikes to include the ancient city of Palmyra, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he was losing patience with Russian violations of his country's air space. "An attack on Turkey means an attack on NATO," Erdogan warned at a Brussels news conference. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had reports of a substantial Russian military build-up in Syria, including ground troops and ships in the eastern Mediterranean. "I will not speculate on the motives ... but this does not look like an accident and we have seen two of them," Stoltenberg said of the air incursions over Turkey's border with Syria. He noted that they "lasted for a long time".

The incidents, which NATO has described as "extremely dangerous" and "unacceptable", underscore the risks of a further escalation of the Syrian civil war, as Russian and U.S. warplanes fly combat missions over the same country for the first time since World War Two. The Russian Defense Ministry had said that an SU-30 warplane had entered Turkish air space along the border with Syria "for a few seconds" on Saturday, a mistake caused by bad weather. NATO says a plane also entered Turkish air space on Sunday, an incident Russia says it is looking into.

Stoltenberg declined to comment on whether the Russian planes had locked their radar on the F-16 Turkish jets scrambled on Saturday to remove Russian aircraft from the air space, usually a prelude to firing.

WAR OF WORDS

NATO?

they won't do sheit to russia...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Would Turkey really send planes up, or are they just talking tough?

Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated
ANKARA: Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Monday warned that Ankara would activate military rules of engagement irrespective of who violates its air space.
“Our rules of engagement are clear whoever violates our air space,” Davutoglu told Haber-Turk television in an interview after Turkish jets intercepted a Russian fighter which violated Turkish air space near the Syrian border.
“The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed. Even it is a flying bird it will be intercepted,” he added.
Davutoglu warned Turkey’s enemies and allies not to infringe its air space but he dismissed the notion of tensions with Russia.

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Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated

Isn't Turkey's air force only slightly better than

 

[Rotagilla]

Would Turkey really send planes up, or are they just talking tough?

Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated
ANKARA: Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Monday warned that Ankara would activate military rules of engagement irrespective of who violates its air space.
“Our rules of engagement are clear whoever violates our air space,” Davutoglu told Haber-Turk television in an interview after Turkish jets intercepted a Russian fighter which violated Turkish air space near the Syrian border.
“The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed. Even it is a flying bird it will be intercepted,” he added.
Davutoglu warned Turkey’s enemies and allies not to infringe its air space but he dismissed the notion of tensions with Russia.

Continue reading at:

Warning: Turkey will activate rules of engagement if air space violated

Isn't Turkey's air force only slightly better than

you watch too much tv...you confuse reality with cartoons...

 

[Bleipriester]

OMG Turkey has an air force? Oh we can soooooooooooooooo go Monty Python on this.



There is a John Cleese moment in here.

They have. But their reaction shows clearly that they are now hostile to Russia. It is more or less their forces, Russia is fighting in Syria.

 

[aris2chat]

too many planes flying too close to other planes and states.

It is a disaster waiting to happen

Palestinian refugees are getting the hell out of syria

Russia and amercan planes, russia and turkish planes, russia and israeli planes, coalition planes, NATO, lebanese, jordanian, iraq, iranian planes and soon to be chinese planes

Cocktail that does not mix

Pousse Cafe is an art, but this is about to be dumped in the blender

 

[cnm]

Isn't Turkey's air force only slightly better than

I suppose. F-4s and F-16s.

 

[waltky]

... there were two separate incidents and "the violation lasted for a long time."
:steamed:
NATO chief: Russian jets in Turkish airspace no accident
Oct 6,`15 -- NATO's secretary-general on Tuesday rejected Moscow's claim that its military incursion into alliance airspace over Turkey wasn't intentional or important, saying there were two separate incidents and "the violation lasted for a long time."

Turkey's military, meanwhile, said more of its jets patrolling the border with Syria were placed in a radar lock by Russian planes and surface-to-air missile systems. In Syria, Russian warplanes reportedly continued pounding targets in the country, where the Kremlin has come to the aid of beleaguered ally President Bashar Assad. NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg told a news conference in Brussels that recent breaches of Turkish airspace by Russian warplanes were "very serious"- even dangerous. "It doesn't look like an accident, and we've seen two of them over the weekend," he added.

The latest Russian airstrikes in Syria, in cooperation with Syrian jets, struck targets in rural areas of the northern Aleppo province, targeting the towns of al-Bab and Deir Hafer, Syrian state TV reported, quoting a military official. Both towns are controlled by the Islamic State group. The official also said IS bases were targeted in Palmyra and surrounding areas in the central Homs province, destroying 20 vehicles, three arms depots and three rocket launchers. Meanwhile, the Syrian air force was said to have targeted areas in rural Latakia controlled by militants, with the military official reporting the death of at least 12 fighters, including two Turks, one Saudi militant from al-Qaida's affiliate in Syria, Nusra Front, and one Palestinian.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a monitoring group with a wide network of activists on the ground, said in the last 24 hours, Russia carried out at least 34 airstrikes in Palmyra and vicinity, areas controlled by IS. Airstrikes also were reported in the rural part of the city of Raqqa, the group's de facto capital. The Observatory said at least 19 IS members were killed, including four in Raqqa in an airstrike that hit two vehicles and an arms depot. In Palmyra and its boroughs, the airstrikes were said to have killed 15 IS militants, struck 10 vehicles and an arms depot.

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Syrian refugees increasingly return to war zones in homeland
Oct 5,`15 -- Growing numbers of Syrian refugees are returning to their war-ravaged homeland from Jordan because they can't survive in exile after drastic aid cuts, can't afford to pay smugglers to sneak them into Europe or are simply homesick.

The returns, along with the increasing migration to Europe, signal that conditions in regional host countries have become increasingly intolerable, the refugees and aid officials said. "We stopped getting any aid," said 47-year-old Adnan, waiting at the U.N.-run Zaatari refugee camp in northern Jordan to sign up his family for the return bus to the Syrian border, about 10 kilometers (6 miles) away. He only gave his first name for fear of repercussions from Syrian authorities.

Syrian refugees wait to sign up for a return bus to the Syrian border, at the U.N.-run Zaatari refugee camp near Mafraq, northern Jordan. Growing numbers of Syrian refugees are returning to their war-ravaged homeland from Jordan because they can't survive in exile after drastic aid cuts, can't afford to pay smugglers to sneak them into Europe or are simply homesick.​

The U.N. refugee agency views the rising number of departures with concern. "It is a dangerous choice for people to make," said Andrew Harper, head of the U.N. refugee agency in Jordan. He said the return of refugees, mainly women and children, to war-torn Syria "signals a failure of the international protection regime." More than 4 million Syrians fled civil war in their country, now in its fifth year. Most settled in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan, a majority living in urban areas. Banned from working legally, they depend on aid and odd jobs. Recent aid cuts by underfunded agencies, particularly the World Food Program, have been devastating.

In Jordan, more than half a million urban refugees were hit hardest, while about 100,000 living in camps were not affected by the latest cuts. Adnan and his family fled their village in the province of Daraa on the Jordanian border - birthplace of the 2011 uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad - more than three years ago. They settled in Ramtha, a Jordanian town just a few miles from Daraa's provincial capital. The family of 12 lived on food vouchers, while the two oldest sons sold vegetables to cover the rent of $250. Two months ago, all income dried up. The two oldest sons, their 14-year-old brother and a sister headed to Europe - two are already in Sweden and two are still in Turkey - while the family lost all food aid. "There is no money," said Adnan, who plans to follow his children to Europe as soon as possible.

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