Warning. Doomsday Clock has gone one minute forward.

[Liability]

So they are wrong?

Yes, they're wrong....And the ultimate goalpost movers to boot.

But they gotta sell them magazines.

Why are they wrong?

Now THAT is a dumb question.

They are wrong because there is no valid way to assess the degree of risk. They are making it up.

That high quality kind of "science" is usually reserved for the Global Climate Change Faithful.

 

[Oddball]

They're wrong because the clock premise is entirely contrived and subjective.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Global Man Made Climate Catastrophe Change Disaster Global WarmerCoolering

 

[Liability]

Global Man Made Climate Catastrophe Change Disaster Global WarmerCoolering

The AGW Faithers are a funny lot.

 

[Charles_Main]

Holy Chicken Little Boy who cried wolf!

 

[Liability]

Holy Chicken Little Boy who cried wolf!

When the sky iz falling, what else could he possibly do?

 

[Charles_Main]

Global Man Made Climate Catastrophe Change Disaster Global WarmerCoolering

If we all just refrain from exhaling for 30 Mins out of every hour. we can knock that nasty Essential Gas CO2 Back and save this rock!

 

[Charles_Main]

Holy Chicken Little Boy who cried wolf!

When the sky iz falling, what else could he possibly do?

the Last time I checked the Sky was rather incapable of Falling

As for what to do, I know what I am doing. Buying gold, Ammo, and scouting for good Secluded Survival Areas.

What else!

 

[Photonic]

Yes, they're wrong....And the ultimate goalpost movers to boot.

But they gotta sell them magazines.

Why are they wrong?

Now THAT is a dumb question.

They are wrong because there is no valid way to assess the degree of risk. They are making it up.

That high quality kind of "science" is usually reserved for the Global Climate Change Faithful.

Oh? Why do we even have the pentagon?

What's the point if you can't assess risk.

 

[Photonic]

What's DEFCON again?

Someone want to remind me?

I mean, last I checked it's a measurement of readiness in accordance with risk assessment.

 

[Charles_Main]

They're wrong because the clock premise is entirely contrived and subjective.

I am old enough to have lived through several times now where ever one and there brother swore it was all going to end for one reason or another. Hell I remember actually being afraid of the "coming ice Age" scientists were sure was coming, I remember duck and cover drills in school in case of Global Thermal Nuclear War, Pandemic Scares, Y2k, and on and on and on.

All BS, now you have the freaks who think the sun is going to roast us all because it's going into a Solar High Cycle not seen in Centuries, But seen before lol.

Normally I dismiss all this, but today is a little different. There is one possible sky to fall so to speak. That's the US dollar, Just when is the rubber Band going break and the bottom fall out. For as bad as it has been lately, the dollar is only down about 11% from it's highs, Wait till the House of cards that is Printing Money, and punting Debt Issues down the road comes falling down and the Value of the dollar drops 50% over night.

Then you will see just how fast a modern Society, Wholly dependent on Daily deliveries of Basic Necessities can fall into Anarchy, Chaos and Violence.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

They usually get things backward. Back in Nov of 1980 they moved it ahead a whole five minutes because Reagan got elected.

They always have an agenda. It shows that no matter how smart you are in some things, that does not mean you are smart in all things, and while it is possible to be very smart about some stuff, it is also possible to be simultaneously horribly stupid in areas outside your area of expertise.

 

[Photonic]

They usually get things backward. Back in Nov of 1980 they moved it ahead a whole five minutes because Reagan got elected.

They always have an agenda. It shows that no matter how smart you are in some things, that does not mean you are smart in all things, and while it is possible to be very smart about some stuff, it is also possible to be simultaneously horribly stupid in areas outside your area of expertise.

They pushed it up largely because of the recent biological modification of an avian flu.

 

[Mr. H.]

THIS muthafuckin' broken clock is NOT right twice a day.

It is not right once a day.

It is never right.

rdean's timepiece?

 

[konradv]

They're wrong because the clock premise is entirely contrived and subjective.

That's an opinion not a proof, just like the setting of the clock is an opinion. Who's more likely to be wrong on this point, people studying the issue or a knee-jerk response because they're "liberal"?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

They usually get things backward. Back in Nov of 1980 they moved it ahead a whole five minutes because Reagan got elected.

They always have an agenda. It shows that no matter how smart you are in some things, that does not mean you are smart in all things, and while it is possible to be very smart about some stuff, it is also possible to be simultaneously horribly stupid in areas outside your area of expertise.

They pushed it up largely because of the recent biological modification of an avian flu.

That is an anti excuse. Influenzas mutate wildly every year. Part of the reason you have to get a new flu shot every year is that there are several new strains. Some of which are scarier, more virulent and contagious than others.

This is like saying that the sun rose again this morning, meaning we are just that much closer to it than we were yesterday.

 

[California Girl]

We're doomed!

Doomed!

D O O M E D ! ! !

 

[The Gadfly]

They're wrong because the clock premise is entirely contrived and subjective.

That's an opinion not a proof, just like the setting of the clock is an opinion. Who's more likely to be wrong on this point, people studying the issue or a knee-jerk response because they're "liberal"?

Konrad,
One problem is that this "clock" has gone from trying to assess the risk of global nuclear/thermonuclear war, to a whole range of other possibilities as well, while most of the scientists connected with the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists are theoretical physicists. Some of these other issues which have been added would appear to be outside the area of their professional expertise. The implication of that is that this is informed speculation, at best, and guessing based on a political agenda, at worst. I see nothing in that, that would be better informed than the speculation of any other reasonably well-educated person.

As for reality, yes, there are any number of scenarios for the destruction of civilization, some natural, some man-made, and some (like a pandemic) which could be either. The natural ones (asteroid strike, EMP from a massive solar flair, supervolcano eruption, and possibly climate change), we can do little about, in any case. The same may be true of a naturally occurring pandemic, which is at least as likely as one caused by, say, bio-terrorism. Life is fragile, human civilization is a tenuous affair, and neither comes with a guarantee. Even IF we could magically get rid of all the nukes tomorrow, and IF we could magically get rid of all "greenhouse emissions" tomorrow, there is absolutely no guarantee that nature won't get us, or at least most of us, eventually. No one gets out of this world alive, so everyone might as well make the best contingency plan they can for any event which might be survivable, and then enjoy today; no one can guarantee ANY of us tomorrow.

 

[Photonic]

They usually get things backward. Back in Nov of 1980 they moved it ahead a whole five minutes because Reagan got elected.

They always have an agenda. It shows that no matter how smart you are in some things, that does not mean you are smart in all things, and while it is possible to be very smart about some stuff, it is also possible to be simultaneously horribly stupid in areas outside your area of expertise.

They pushed it up largely because of the recent biological modification of an avian flu.

That is an anti excuse. Influenzas mutate wildly every year. Part of the reason you have to get a new flu shot every year is that there are several new strains. Some of which are scarier, more virulent and contagious than others.

This is like saying that the sun rose again this morning, meaning we are just that much closer to it than we were yesterday.

60% fatality rate when contracted, incurable as of now, is airborne.

Right now considered the most dangerous virus on the planet. It was recently genetically engineered from the avian flu.

 

[konradv]

They're wrong because the clock premise is entirely contrived and subjective.

That's an opinion not a proof, just like the setting of the clock is an opinion. Who's more likely to be wrong on this point, people studying the issue or a knee-jerk response because they're "liberal"?

Konrad,
One problem is that this "clock" has gone from trying to assess the risk of global nuclear/thermonuclear war, to a whole range of other possibilities as well, while most of the scientists connected with the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists are theoretical physicists. Some of these other issues which have been added would appear to be outside the area of their professional expertise. The implication of that is that this is informed speculation, at best, and guessing based on a political agenda, at worst. I see nothing in that, that would be better informed than the speculation of any other reasonably well-educated person.

As for reality, yes, there are any number of scenarios for the destruction of civilization, some natural, some man-made, and some (like a pandemic) which could be either. The natural ones (asteroid strike, EMP from a massive solar flair, supervolcano eruption, and possibly climate change), we can do little about, in any case. The same may be true of a naturally occurring pandemic, which is at least as likely as one caused by, say, bio-terrorism. Life is fragile, human civilization is a tenuous affair, and neither comes with a guarantee. Even IF we could magically get rid of all the nukes tomorrow, and IF we could magically get rid of all "greenhouse emissions" tomorrow, there is absolutely no guarantee that nature won't get us, or at least most of us, eventually. No one gets out of this world alive, so everyone might as well make the best contingency plan they can for any event which might be survivable, and then enjoy today; no one can guarantee ANY of us tomorrow.

All they do is put a clock on their bulletin. What's the problem? So, they included other risks. Sure life is tenuous. The clock is just an opinion on how humans are effecting it.