War with Iran

[WatertheTree]

The Oligarchy from the east is clearly pushing us towards war with Iran. Are we as a nation prepared for this?? We are going to be talking about total war here. It is enevitable that the middle east will align agianst us.

How many people are for a war with Iran?

 

[Contumacious]

The Oligarchy from the east is clearly pushing us towards war with Iran. Are we as a nation prepared for this?? We are going to be talking about total war here. It is enevitable that the middle east will align agianst us.

How many people are for a war with Iran?

Our nation is completely and totally bankrupt.

But we must remember the fact that our leaders must answer to Bibi and the Knesset. So whatever the Zionists want the Zionists get.

Shalom for now.

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[Mad Scientist]

How many people are for a war with Iran?

We need this war to get our economy going again, just like WWII did.

 

[ladyliberal]

What do you mean by "oligarchy of the East"?

Total war is extremely unlikely, and would be very short if it occurred. No nuclear power has initiated anything close to a total war.

The US and Iran are already engaged in low-level hostilities. Certain factors, such as Iran's nuclear program and America's persistent presence in Iran's claimed sphere of influence, point to increasing hostilities in the future. Still, I rate a war with Iran on the order of the conflicts in Iraq or Afghanistan unlikely in the coming decades.

 

[auditor0007]

Unless Iran does something really stupid, there is no reason for us to become involved in another conflict. Besides that, a very large percentage of Iran, maybe even the majority, wants change and will eventually bring that change on their own. Killing thousands of innocents in another conflict would not help us in the long run.

 

[Avatar4321]

We've been at war with Iran since the Carter administration. It's been a cold war, but we've still been at war.

We need to take care of some other projects before we think about sending troops into Iran.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Inevitable.

The handwriting was on the wall for war with Japan when the gunboat Panay was attacked in the mid 30's. The same handwriting is on the wall, today. The Arabs are feeling a new surge of economic and political muscle in the world today while America's prestige, economic, military, and political power are in rapid descent or in free fall as a result of our Elective dependency on foreign oil. Sooner or later, these descendents of the Patriots at Bunker Hill, New Orleans, Gettysburg, San Juan Hill, Flanders Fields, Anzio and Pointe du Hoc, the Chosin Reservoir, will say enough is enough. Unless Barry convinces most Americans in the meantime that he is the benevolent master they've been waiting for.

 

[Old Rocks]

I heard for 30 years about the inevitable war with Red China. Now they are our bank, and the primary danger from them is that they might foreclose on us.

Iran is not stable, and changes can take place there as quickly as it has in Egypt and Libya.

 

[Claudette]

I heard for 30 years about the inevitable war with Red China. Now they are our bank, and the primary danger from them is that they might foreclose on us.

Iran is not stable, and changes can take place there as quickly as it has in Egypt and Libya.

Your right. The population tried to overthrow the mullahs already. I'm sure it will happen again.

Pull our troops out of Iran and Afghanistan and leave em hanging around the middle east. Now wouldn't that get the mullahs sweating

Would be a worth it just to see their reaction.

 

[Rocko]

Lol at Oligarchy from the east....Iran is not a liked country in the Middle East btw, and no one will side with them, when we or Israel bomb their nuclear weapons compound...the Arabs want us to bomb them more than anyone else....Good one water.

 

[TruthSeeker56]

Unless Iran does something really stupid, there is no reason for us to become involved in another conflict. Besides that, a very large percentage of Iran, maybe even the majority, wants change and will eventually bring that change on their own. Killing thousands of innocents in another conflict would not help us in the long run.

"Killing thousands of innocents"? Oh, you must be talking about 9/11, right? Or maybe Saddam Hussein and his murdering of thousands of "innocents"? Or maybe the Taliban and their extermination of all "non-believers"? Or maybe the Nazi holocaust? Perhaps the Bataan Death March? Maybe the rape of Nanking?

 

[Photonic]

Iran's people have no interest in a conflict with the US, only it's government.

If it went to war with us, it's own people would destroy it from the inside.

 

[WatertheTree]

What do you mean by "oligarchy of the East"?

Total war is extremely unlikely, and would be very short if it occurred. No nuclear power has initiated anything close to a total war.

The US and Iran are already engaged in low-level hostilities. Certain factors, such as Iran's nuclear program and America's persistent presence in Iran's claimed sphere of influence, point to increasing hostilities in the future. Still, I rate a war with Iran on the order of the conflicts in Iraq or Afghanistan unlikely in the coming decades.

The oligarchy of the east is in reference to Washington DC. And the Oligarchy is the cartel of our biggest banks and richest citizens. Our government serves them.

To the guy that said total war with the middle east would solve our economic problems, well that is totally false. It would only give us alot more debt then we have right now, cause were a nation of chicken shit sheep and we will put it on the credit card rather then make the 1% pay for anything.

Here is a video I found of our history with Iran, for people that want to eliminate the ambiguity of the debate and explore policy idea's based on fact instead of urban legends.

War with Iran is Emminent- What every Ron Paul Supporter should Know about Iran WW3 - YouTube

 

[zzzz]

First Syria, then Iran.

 

[Charles_Main]

The Oligarchy from the east is clearly pushing us towards war with Iran. Are we as a nation prepared for this?? We are going to be talking about total war here. It is enevitable that the middle east will align agianst us.

How many people are for a war with Iran?

Where do you get the idea the Middle east would unite against us? Did they unite Against us in Afghanistan? Iraq or Kuwait? No, Because the Middle easy is very divided. Half Sunni half Shitte. If we went to war with Iran, there is no way in Hell the Sunni countries mostly in the west, will be fighting along side Iran.

Also, Iran is, Contrary to Popular Belief, not Arab. So they do not even have that connections with the Rest of the Middle easy to share. Clearly if you think the Middle Easy would unite Behind Iran, You have no idea at all about Iran and how it relates to the rest of the countries in the Middle east.

Total war? How, Short of the US being stupid enough to Invade Iran. What can Iran Possibly do to us? we have the power to systematically destroy their Conventional Military Forces. They could not even put up a real fight. US domination of their Shores, and Air Space is Assured. Iran can not field large armies to threaten it's neighbors with out us seeing it, and being able to decimate them.

I think you read to much into Iran's Ability. Hell they threaten to send their Navy to our Shores and libs were all freaking out about it. But they have like 4 Frigates and a couple hundred small fast Boats. They could not possibly do what they said they would do, and if they did it would be like a fly trying to threaten an Elephant.

This is precisely why we must not let them get Nukes. With Nukes Iran could gain the Power to do things that it could never do with out a Nuclear Shield. Like Invading neighbors with out the US decimating them from the air, for fear of a Nuclear War.

 

[Photonic]

The Oligarchy from the east is clearly pushing us towards war with Iran. Are we as a nation prepared for this?? We are going to be talking about total war here. It is enevitable that the middle east will align agianst us.

How many people are for a war with Iran?

Where do you get the idea the Middle east would unite against us? Did they unite Against us in Afghanistan? Iraq or Kuwait? No, Because the Middle easy is very divided. Half Sunni half Shitte. If we went to war with Iran, there is no way in Hell the Sunni countries mostly in the west, will be fighting along side Iran.

Also, Iran is, Contrary to Popular Belief, not Arab. So they do not even have that connections with the Rest of the Middle easy to share. Clearly if you think the Middle Easy would unite Behind Iran, You have no idea at all about Iran and how it relates to the rest of the countries in the Middle east.

Total war? How, Short of the US being stupid enough to Invade Iran. What can Iran Possibly do to us? we have the power to systematically destroy their Conventional Military Forces. They could not even put up a real fight. US domination of their Shores, and Air Space is Assured. Iran can not field large armies to threaten it's neighbors with out us seeing it, and being able to decimate them.

I think you read to much into Iran's Ability. Hell they threaten to send their Navy to our Shores and libs were all freaking out about it. But they have like 4 Frigates and a couple hundred small fast Boats. They could not possibly do what they said they would do, and if they did it would be like a fly trying to threaten an Elephant.

This is precisely why we must not let them get Nukes. With Nukes Iran could gain the Power to do things that it could never do with out a Nuclear Shield. Like Invading neighbors with out the US decimating them from the air, for fear of a Nuclear War.

Glad to see there is some sanity in this thread.

Not only that, most of Irans citizens would help us, they HATE their government.

Also a join strike is mutually assured because Iran is incredibly unpopular with the countries it is surrounded by.

Even China and Russia have told them to shut the fuck up on occasions.

 

[Homer99]

The United States should not overtly go to war with Iran. Israel should iniate a war with Iran. Therefore the Middle-East region, including North Africa, and parts of Europe, will be engulfed in conflict. America should take the opportunity to increase her exports of American arms, thus improving her economy either through direct sales, or international loans.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We've only got three or four going on right now. Yeah, let's add another while we're 14 trillion in the hole. What a deal.

 

[Homer99]

That's right. The reason that the wars have been so expensive is that they have been fought as covertly as possible. Iraq was for oil, Afghanistan was for a launching pad into central asia, and Pakistan is to be used as a ground in which block a energy pipeline built between the Middle-East and Asia. Israel is already getting ready to launch a pre-emptive strike. Before they do so, the United States must internationally state that if there is to be a strike on Iran by Israel, the United States would remain nuetral. As previously mentioned, the US then would be able to sit back with the moral authority in that they didn't start war, whilst also being able to become the worlds arms dealer and loan shark.

 

[Dirty]

Unless Iran does something really stupid, there is no reason for us to become involved in another conflict. Besides that, a very large percentage of Iran, maybe even the majority, wants change and will eventually bring that change on their own. Killing thousands of innocents in another conflict would not help us in the long run.

I couldn’t agree more.