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[DiamondDave]

I was thinking about the other thread a bit. And taking a job is good and all, but if we want to create more jobs, if we want the economy to grow, we just cant be content to take a job if it's offered. We have to go out there and create them. We need people who arent content to sit around all day starting their own businesses and creating a need to hire other people.

Our economy will not recover while people are acting like they are entitled to have someone else give them something. You have to go out and create opportunities.

*Sigh* Avatar, just what the hell are you talking about?

First of all, starting a business takes capital. People who are out of work don't have capital. They have DEBT. While it is possible to start a business while in debt, they almost always fail. You are providing a good or service, and unless it's a brand spankin new technology that nobody's ever heard of, there's already somebody else doing it. Since you have debt, and the other stronger firms have capital, you are priced out of the market.

This is doubly true in a down economy. The demand is not there, so established firms are twice as willing to operate at tiny margins just to stay in business. Someone starting with nothing does not have that luxury.

As I've discussed in other threads, the problem is that the opportunities are gone. *Poof* is that clear? We don't make anything here anymore. It's not the stupid libbies pushing the "recession" button just to piss you off. The system threw the middle class overboard 30 years ago. There are solutions, real, solvent, coherent solutions that will bring jobs back to this country, but they dare not be mentioned in the lawmaking process, lest we be accused of being communists, socialists, haters of freedom, or whatever buzzword you guys are using this week.

You're assertion that people are "Acting like they are entitled to have someone else give them something" because they can't find work is obnoxious. I don't know what the source of your income is, but I hope for your sake it remains solvent and doesn't get outsourced, lest you will have to appeal to the very lawmakers for help that you now crucify due to your lack of understanding.

Opportunities are only gone because people arent looking for them. They expect them to just be there instead of working for them.

I will never be appealing to lawmakers for a job. It's not their responsibility to provide for me or my family. It's mine.

Until you learn this, you will always be enslaved.

Well stated.... but would add that they are enslaved and thus choose to enslave those that they wish to force to provide for them

 

[Cuyo]

I was thinking about the other thread a bit. And taking a job is good and all, but if we want to create more jobs, if we want the economy to grow, we just cant be content to take a job if it's offered. We have to go out there and create them. We need people who arent content to sit around all day starting their own businesses and creating a need to hire other people.

Our economy will not recover while people are acting like they are entitled to have someone else give them something. You have to go out and create opportunities.

*Sigh* Avatar, just what the hell are you talking about?

First of all, starting a business takes capital. People who are out of work don't have capital. They have DEBT. While it is possible to start a business while in debt, they almost always fail. You are providing a good or service, and unless it's a brand spankin new technology that nobody's ever heard of, there's already somebody else doing it. Since you have debt, and the other stronger firms have capital, you are priced out of the market.

This is doubly true in a down economy. The demand is not there, so established firms are twice as willing to operate at tiny margins just to stay in business. Someone starting with nothing does not have that luxury.

As I've discussed in other threads, the problem is that the opportunities are gone. *Poof* is that clear? We don't make anything here anymore. It's not the stupid libbies pushing the "recession" button just to piss you off. The system threw the middle class overboard 30 years ago. There are solutions, real, solvent, coherent solutions that will bring jobs back to this country, but they dare not be mentioned in the lawmaking process, lest we be accused of being communists, socialists, haters of freedom, or whatever buzzword you guys are using this week.

You're assertion that people are "Acting like they are entitled to have someone else give them something" because they can't find work is obnoxious. I don't know what the source of your income is, but I hope for your sake it remains solvent and doesn't get outsourced, lest you will have to appeal to the very lawmakers for help that you now crucify due to your lack of understanding.

Opportunities are only gone because people arent looking for them. They expect them to just be there instead of working for them.

I will never be appealing to lawmakers for a job. It's not their responsibility to provide for me or my family. It's mine.

Until you learn this, you will always be enslaved.

I Don't think you'll feel the same way when it falls apart for you!

We're all fish in a fish bowl, with food being dropped in the top. The biggest, strongest fish are the fastest to the food, therefore get the lion's share. The small, feeble fish are eating whatever scraps they can find at the bottom of the bowl, and when necessary, the shit of the big fish. The problem is, with increased globalization and outsourcing, there's not as much food being dropped in the top, so the big strong fish are fighting twice as hard to continue getting the amount of food to which they're accustomed.

Government assistance is mearly spreading just a little extra scraps on the bottom of the bowl, to prevent the small fish from teaming up and killing the big fish.

Myself, I'm self-employed, basically un-affected by the recession. In fact in some ways it's helped me financially. But the entire fish bowl is going to fall apart when the little fish get tired of watching the big fish greedily take all the food and revolt.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I've got an idea

I could charge you all to read my posts!

You're going to be very hungry.

You owe me $1.49

I'd rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it.

 

[SFC Ollie]

The Mrs and I have everything needed to run a small home ceramic business. She is a certified Ceramics instructor and one hell of an artist. We used to make our pices and sell them at places like Christmas bazaars and summer flea markets. One of our specialties is ceramic skulls which I developed a technique for that makes them look most real. It costs us about $7 to produce one and at least an hours time each. We used to sell them for $12.

Any more all we get is "will you take $5 for that?" Needless to say we have almost stopped making things except as gifts for family and friends.

Would you please post a picture of the skull, it interests me.

I sold many of those Camo ones while in the military.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Sollie your wife has talent, the subject matter is a bit bizare, I take it they are "life" size.

Maybe if you scaled them down, people like to buy things that fit in their pockets and that they can show off, key rings, walking stick nobs, door handles ect.

Increase your price, small is harder to make.

Add some other works to lighten the mood, who knows you might sell more

 

[SFC Ollie]

Sollie your wife has talent, the subject matter is a bit bizare, I take it they are "life" size.

Maybe if you scaled them down, people like to buy things that fit in their pockets and that they can show off, key rings, walking stick nobs, door handles ect.

Increase your price, small is harder to make.

Add some other works to lighten the mood, who knows you might sell more

LOL we have dozens of different items. From coffee mugs to Indian figurines, to Dragons of various shapes and sizes. The realistic skulls are simply one of the better selling (or used to be). But strange as it may seem, we have sold at least one ceramic egg for $1 at every show we have ever gone to. Weird.