Wall for strong gun control

They're not the ones who hate us.

I don't care if illegals love us or hate us, they have to go.

Europe is taking in all the Syrians, Libyans and Iraqis for us

For us? what does that mean?
How can you not know what that means ?
Our wars create more terrorists. That's as simply as it can be put and if
you can't see that, then you just don't want to.

How can you not know what that means ?

Because they aren't doing it "for us".
We didn't ask them to do it.
Doing it isn't doing us a favor.

Why don't you explain what it means?

Our wars create more terrorists.

Really? I don't see lots of German, Japanese, North Korean or Vietnamese terrorists. Do you?

That's as simply as it can be put

The word you need is simplistic.

Your claims are simplistic and ignorant.


Yes we did ask the Europeans to take in Mideast refugees for us, and they are doing us a favor because otherwise they would be trying to come to the US instead.
When you attack and occupy a county, like we did in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc., you become legally responsible for refugees you created, under international law.

Pearl Harbor was essentially a terrorist attack. The only reason there were not more is that the US was so distant and hard to get to.
It is cheaper to get to the US these days, so now you will get more terrorist attacks if you cause harm like war.
 
They're not the ones who hate us.

I don't care if illegals love us or hate us, they have to go.

Europe is taking in all the Syrians, Libyans and Iraqis for us

For us? what does that mean?
How can you not know what that means ?
Our wars create more terrorists. That's as simply as it can be put and if
you can't see that, then you just don't want to.

How can you not know what that means ?

Because they aren't doing it "for us".
We didn't ask them to do it.
Doing it isn't doing us a favor.

Why don't you explain what it means?

Our wars create more terrorists.

Really? I don't see lots of German, Japanese, North Korean or Vietnamese terrorists. Do you?

That's as simply as it can be put

The word you need is simplistic.

Your claims are simplistic and ignorant.


Yes we did ask the Europeans to take in Mideast refugees for us, and they are doing us a favor because otherwise they would be trying to come to the US instead.
When you attack and occupy a county, like we did in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc., you become legally responsible for refugees you created, under international law.

Pearl Harbor was essentially a terrorist attack. The only reason there were not more is that the US was so distant and hard to get to.
It is cheaper to get to the US these days, so now you will get more terrorist attacks if you cause harm like war.
Yes we did ask the Europeans to take in Mideast refugees for us,

Who asked? Obama and Hillary after they fucked up Libya?

In that case the Europeans were idiots (especially Merkel) for accepting millions of low-skilled, hostile "refugees".

and they are doing us a favor because otherwise they would be trying to come to the US instead.

They should definitely try to bring their crappy boats to the US. The ones who make it should be refused and sent back.

When you attack and occupy a county, like we did in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc., you become legally responsible for refugees you created, under international law.

Link?

It is cheaper to get to the US these days, so now you will get more terrorist attacks if you cause harm like war.

Sounds like an excellent reason to eliminate travel from Muslim countries.
 
You actually make a little sense and say a few factual things, then veer off into the realm of the mentally challenged. So . . . what has anything you say have to do with gun control and are you for or against it, or do you just babble ALL the time?

Sometimes the police shoot us citizens for no reason. Sometimes they take their guns and run away from mass school shootings with them. Sometimes they use violence on citizens for protesting and questioning the authoritarianism of concentrated power and wealth.

All true! Police are human beings too and so subject to emotions and mistakes. As such, if a bad cop is going to shoot me for an unjust reason, if the police are going to leave me defenseless at a mass shooting while they go have a smoke waiting for SWAT, I choose to reserve the righht to at least be able to try to protect and defend myself rather than be 100% at their mercy. Guns 1 You 0.

Guns have always been used on we the people by the power structure, much more so than on any occasion where some american used a gun to challenge his overreaching govt, which was supposed to be the big deal we needed them for.

Guns were historically created to win wars first, then to control a population. The first step in every case is always to disarm that population first. So again, I choose to keep firearms rather than be without them. As to the "supposed big deal," you seem to overlook that the entire Revolutionary War that beat England and gave us the United States was fought because of an armed and well-trained militia. Not to mention in WWII when the Emperor of Japan was going to invade mainland USA and his generals talked him out of it because they knew we would be there armed, behind every single tree, rock and bush. If the Right To Carry is never needed again beyond those two incident to defend our mainland against threats foreign and domestic, I'LL TAKE IT. Guns 2 You 0.

Own, permitted to carry, but the gun by and large is a fetish symbol in america;
The very fact that I just proved they keep us free on both a personal and collective level makes your whole thought here beneath refutation. Guns 3 You 0.

a fetish symbol of fweedumb to a people
Gibberish.

who cannot locate a collective backbone and question a predatory economic/political system that now sees fit to wall them in with their militarized police and constant 24/7/365 surveillance state. Ours is a people to scared to live in a free and open society.
Maybe a point there. So what are you doing about it beside bitch? Are you going to give up freedom for security too, and get neither? I choose to exercise my right to self-protection because justice is not perfect and the police cannot be everywhere all the time. If half the people in this country grew a spine and defended their Constitution and demanded real representation, maybe we wouldn't have half this stuff going on you whine about. Guns 4 You 0.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!
The ultimate law of the land says no. I believe house Democrats should immediately call for a vote on changing the 2nd Amendment. The spectacular failure would be hilarious.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!


So, the Brainless Twat is still stuck on the totally failed idea that more gun laws on top of the thousands we already have and do not enforced fully disarming the law-abiding victims of daily crime so that the armed criminal can shoot, rob and kill without fear is the REAL issue in this country! What better way to encourage more criminals across the border than into a police state of millions of helpless, unarmed victims!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when police go out to stop crime, THEY TAKE GUNS with them!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when Border Agents go south to stop illegals from criminally entering the USA THEY TAKE GUNS with them.

Sometimes the police shoot us citizens for no reason. Sometimes they take their guns and run away from mass school shootings with them. Sometimes they use violence on citizens for protesting and questioning the authoritarianism of concentrated power and wealth. As we like to say, the gun is just a tool, the gun didn't do anything by itself. Guns have always been used on we the people by the power structure, much more so than on any occasion where some american used a gun to challenge his overreaching govt, which was supposed to be the big deal we needed them for.

Own, permitted to carry, but the gun by and large is a fetish symbol in america; a fetish symbol of fweedumb to a people who cannot locate a collective backbone and question a predatory economic/political system that now sees fit to wall them in with their militarized police and constant 24/7/365 surveillance state. Ours is a people to scared to live in a free and open society.
You have described liberal scum to a T.

All concentrated wealth and power needs to do is wall the people in and keep them pointed at each other, the american people will do the rest.

No, idiot jackasses like you will do the rest. Concentrated wealth and power? How can you NOT have concentrations of wealth and power? Concentrations of wealth are called a national treasury for the dispensation of services to the nation (borders, highways, disasters, etc.) and concentrations of power are called a government (national administration for the sake of managing ports, borders, highways and disasters, not to mention armies and other things for the management of the country on the world stage).

So, HB Blowme, what you are saying is that you are simply against any government at all? No treasury, no national defense? In other words, you are just another fucking scum anarchist who doesn't realize that all anarchy and socialism ever do is break down eventually into communism and centralized power anyway of a small oligarchy of the few who have ALL the money and power, and where the people have ZERO money, power or rights. At least our way, we have a republic governed by laws which give the people SOME power.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!


So, the Brainless Twat is still stuck on the totally failed idea that more gun laws on top of the thousands we already have and do not enforced fully disarming the law-abiding victims of daily crime so that the armed criminal can shoot, rob and kill without fear is the REAL issue in this country! What better way to encourage more criminals across the border than into a police state of millions of helpless, unarmed victims!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when police go out to stop crime, THEY TAKE GUNS with them!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when Border Agents go south to stop illegals from criminally entering the USA THEY TAKE GUNS with them.

Sometimes the police shoot us citizens for no reason. Sometimes they take their guns and run away from mass school shootings with them. Sometimes they use violence on citizens for protesting and questioning the authoritarianism of concentrated power and wealth. As we like to say, the gun is just a tool, the gun didn't do anything by itself. Guns have always been used on we the people by the power structure, much more so than on any occasion where some american used a gun to challenge his overreaching govt, which was supposed to be the big deal we needed them for.

Own, permitted to carry, but the gun by and large is a fetish symbol in america; a fetish symbol of fweedumb to a people who cannot locate a collective backbone and question a predatory economic/political system that now sees fit to wall them in with their militarized police and constant 24/7/365 surveillance state. Ours is a people to scared to live in a free and open society.
You have described liberal scum to a T.

All concentrated wealth and power needs to do is wall the people in and keep them pointed at each other, the american people will do the rest.

No, idiot jackasses like you will do the rest. Concentrated wealth and power? How can you NOT have concentrations of wealth and power? Concentrations of wealth are called a national treasury for the dispensation of services to the nation (borders, highways, disasters, etc.) and concentrations of power are called a government (national administration for the sake of managing ports, borders, highways and disasters, not to mention armies and other things for the management of the country on the world stage).

So, HB Blowme, what you are saying is that you are simply against any government at all? No treasury, no national defense? In other words, you are just another fucking scum anarchist who doesn't realize that all anarchy and socialism ever do is break down eventually into communism and centralized power anyway of a small oligarchy of the few who have ALL the money and power, and where the people have ZERO money, power or rights. At least our way, we have a republic governed by laws which give the people SOME power.


See what I mean?
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!


Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.
 
So, the Brainless Twat is still stuck on the totally failed idea that more gun laws on top of the thousands we already have and do not enforced fully disarming the law-abiding victims of daily crime so that the armed criminal can shoot, rob and kill without fear is the REAL issue in this country! What better way to encourage more criminals across the border than into a police state of millions of helpless, unarmed victims!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when police go out to stop crime, THEY TAKE GUNS with them!

HOW ODD, Brainless that when Border Agents go south to stop illegals from criminally entering the USA THEY TAKE GUNS with them.

Sometimes the police shoot us citizens for no reason. Sometimes they take their guns and run away from mass school shootings with them. Sometimes they use violence on citizens for protesting and questioning the authoritarianism of concentrated power and wealth. As we like to say, the gun is just a tool, the gun didn't do anything by itself. Guns have always been used on we the people by the power structure, much more so than on any occasion where some american used a gun to challenge his overreaching govt, which was supposed to be the big deal we needed them for.

Own, permitted to carry, but the gun by and large is a fetish symbol in america; a fetish symbol of fweedumb to a people who cannot locate a collective backbone and question a predatory economic/political system that now sees fit to wall them in with their militarized police and constant 24/7/365 surveillance state. Ours is a people to scared to live in a free and open society.
You have described liberal scum to a T.

All concentrated wealth and power needs to do is wall the people in and keep them pointed at each other, the american people will do the rest.

No, idiot jackasses like you will do the rest. Concentrated wealth and power? How can you NOT have concentrations of wealth and power? Concentrations of wealth are called a national treasury for the dispensation of services to the nation (borders, highways, disasters, etc.) and concentrations of power are called a government (national administration for the sake of managing ports, borders, highways and disasters, not to mention armies and other things for the management of the country on the world stage).

So, HB Blowme, what you are saying is that you are simply against any government at all? No treasury, no national defense? In other words, you are just another fucking scum anarchist who doesn't realize that all anarchy and socialism ever do is break down eventually into communism and centralized power anyway of a small oligarchy of the few who have ALL the money and power, and where the people have ZERO money, power or rights. At least our way, we have a republic governed by laws which give the people SOME power.


See what I mean?


Yes I do. For a while when you first joined I wasn't sure if you were conservative or liberal. Now I realize you are simply too brain-dead to justify a waste of my time.
 
I actually don't think a wall is necessary....Repeal and abolish the socialistic welfare freebie state, and the problem goes away on its own.

But Marxist moonbats like you will never have that, so you tee up band-aid answers like a wall for the other side.

It disgusts me we need to have a barrier because there are people who will undermine our security for their own benefit.

I agree in part about your assertion eliminating the nanny state, but it should also be impossible to exist illegally in a country that can seem to track how much porn you watch, what kind of products you might be interested in, or everything you've ever said in a high school yearbook should someone nominate you for SCOTUS.

.
Amazing isn't it? Our government knows about every aspect of our lives, where we go, what we buy and what we say, but they cant find 11 million illegals.

Astounding.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

No.

Unless you crack open the hood and change the Constitution, giving “this for that” is a non-starter. Future Congresses can just change the laws, there is no guarantee that the laws will be enforced by the executive, etc...
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

Our homicide rate is because of the brown people. Big brain, do you really want to address this issue in a strong way, or would it be perhaps better to just shut up and build that damn wall?
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!
Na, not really
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Oh please stop with that stupidity.

By your logic we don't need laws against murder or bankrobbery.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!
Na, not really
43141033_10217323153613558_714535081762357248_n.jpg
Oh please stop with that stupidity.

By your logic we don't need laws against murder or bankrobbery.
Lol
The vast majority of violent crime is done by repeat offenders in progressive controlled urban areas. With extremely strict gun control laws.
We have no criminal control, eliminate the repeat offenders problems go away generally...
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!
Na, not really
43141033_10217323153613558_714535081762357248_n.jpg
Oh please stop with that stupidity.

By your logic we don't need laws against murder or bankrobbery.
Lol
The vast majority of violent crime is done by repeat offenders in progressive controlled urban areas. With extremely strict gun control laws.
We have no criminal control, eliminate the repeat offenders problems go away generally...
Deflect much?

Let me answer that for you:

Yes, yes you do.
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!
Na, not really
43141033_10217323153613558_714535081762357248_n.jpg
Oh please stop with that stupidity.

By your logic we don't need laws against murder or bankrobbery.
Lol
The vast majority of violent crime is done by repeat offenders in progressive controlled urban areas. With extremely strict gun control laws.
We have no criminal control, eliminate the repeat offenders problems go away generally...
Deflect much?

Let me answer that for you:

Yes, yes you do.
Frivolous gun control laws never work for the good of anybody... except for the criminals
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!


Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!

Our homicide rate is because of the brown people. Big brain, do you really want to address this issue in a strong way, or would it be perhaps better to just shut up and build that damn wall?
That's a funny claim. Why don't you just say it is because of men?
 
Trump is claiming to want to protect us with this wall. Well nothing would protect us more than some strong gun control. Our homicide rate is 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Trade the wall for strong gun control!


Where did you get this idea? Mexico has extreme Gun Control, and a sky high homicide compared to America. Indeed, the Mexico's rate is more than thrice that of America.

I seem to recall Jamaica also has strict gun control......
Funny how every country capable of enforcing laws with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates than us. Really comparing us to Mexico and Jamaica? Law enforcement in mexico is so corrupt they get disarmed.
 

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