Wake Up People! The Government is not the answer to our problems!

Whenever I read these threads, i have to wonder if many people actually understand what people mean when they want the feds to take their hands off money.

Nobody wants the government to take money off THEIR hands.

We want the government to take money off OTHER PEOPLE'S hands, so that WE don't have to give OUR MONEY to the government.

I'd have thought that rather obvious, by now.

That's much of how the class war plays out, actually....in the form of tax policies which reward some and punish others.

The United States was set up with a body for each state to handle roads, the electrical grid and other infrastructure problems, the state governments. they were intended to place taxes and provide servivces, NOT the feds.

Partially true.

The government was set up to do some stuff, and the government was set up such that it could do stuff NOT SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the constitution, too.

The elasticity of the constitution is a bdouble edged swords, of course.

Had it not been so elastic, I doubt the USA would exist, but surely we ALL think that some of the SUpreme Cout's rulings have been insane.

My favorite examples of insanity, is the SC deciding that MONEY = FREE SPEECH, and the ruling that CORPORATIONS HAVE RIGHTS.

Other people have other complaints about this elesticity in the laws of the land, and their complaints might be reasonable, too.


Simply stated, the federal government makes things worse when it steps in, because it brings with it all the corruption and neoptism and old boyism that two centuries have grafted to it.

And the same original sin problems are not evident to you in STATE and LOCAL GOVERNMENTS?

If not, why not? Are you not paying attention to your local governments excesses?


It's not about living in a lawless state like in Africa as someone mentioned, it's about a central government having TOO much authority and TOO LITTLE accountabilty.

Yes, that's true. When some of us are accused of being socialists who want the government to control everything, we are apt to paint those who try to pass that outright lie as the polar opposite.

The feds prove, no matter what party, they will spend, spend, and spend some more, come hell or high water.

Does seem to be the trend, doesn't it? It's especially vexing since they seem to spend so foolishly in so many cases.

So please stop trying to tell me the gov gave me this or that, it didn't, I paid for it, as did everyone else, and 99 out of 100 things they do i don't approve of.

The existence of civil authority (read: governments of all sorts) gives us some conditions which make capitalism and a reasonably functional society possible.

I think even you must think that is a good thing, don't you?

Neither of us are anarchist or fascists, but we can surely disagree about what course of action we want our governments to take, anyway.

Such event is normally thought of as the POLITICAL PROCESS.
 
less "government" and more "people" is the solution. Specifically "people" left alone to keep what they earn and do with that money what they see fit.

By God, Skull, you are so right! We don't need no damn Gub'ment taking our hard earned. So let's shut down the most expensive dept first! What the hell do we need with those expensive fight planes and overpaid jet jockies? We all can handle them buggers with the ol' '06, right?

You want a third world nation, Skull? Then adapt a third world tax system.

Old rocks in in the head seems to be your problem.

you see the Constitution, remember that li'l ol' document that spells out the role and power of federal government, clearly states that the government can raise and keep a military.

not to say we can't save some money on defense because we clearly can. but what about all those other areas where the government has no constitutional authority?

surely we can get rid of those too to save some money

I am sure we could find redundant positions and offices in government and get rid of those.

But no we can't cut anything can we. My god that would just be stupid. Imagine spending less money so we can take less from the people.

IT"S JUST INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!

We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

Promote general welfare. That seems to cover everything from the Interstate System, National Parks, and Social Security.

Just so happens I keep a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America beside my computer, just so that people like you cannot make stupid claims concerning it.
 

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