Waitress Tipping: A math question for leftys

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    Who makes more, A great waitress making $400 bucks in tips a night, or a waitress being paid a minimum wage of say $15 bucks an hour no tips allowed?


    Was reading this story and these two quotes stood out..

    Why its better to give restaurant workers the minimum wage than argue over tips - MarketWatch



    Tipped workers are unambiguously better off in cities where tipped workers are paid the regular minimum wage, regardless of tips,” said David Cooper, senior economic analyst at the Economic Policy Institute.



    Does eliminating tips help wait staff?
    Not really, but a new report argues that the emphasis should be on giving restaurant workers the minimum wage.



    Why it’s better to give restaurant workers the minimum wage (than argue over tips)
    By Kari Paul
    Published: Sep 12, 2018 5:05 pm ET

    A new analysis finds Washington, D.C. and other cities may benefit from eliminating tips
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    Waitresses are overworked and depressed, studies show.
    Does eliminating tips help wait staff? Not really, but a new report argues that the emphasis should be on giving restaurant workers the minimum wage.

    After San Francisco and Seattle enacted a $15 minimum wage for all workers, employees in the restaurant industry saw improvements, according to a study by the Economic Policy Institute released on Wednesday. The study compared those two cities to Washington D.C., where a similar policy has been proposed. It found Washington, D.C. and other cities would benefit from a “one fair wage policy.”

    Tipped workers are unambiguously better off in cities where tipped workers are paid the regular minimum wage, regardless of tips,” said David Cooper, senior economic analyst at the Economic Policy Institute.

    Don’t miss: If you can’t afford to tip 20%, should you go to a different restaurant?

    The D.C. Council is considering overturning Initiative 77, a measure passed in June that would gradually raise D.C.’s tipped minimum wage over eight years until it’s equal to the federal minimum wage in 2026, under pressure from the restaurant industry.

    The National Restaurant Association and the Metropolitan Washington Area Restaurant Association have arguedraising the minimum wage for restaurant workers would lead to layoffs, closures, and a decrease in pay to employees due to a decline in tipping from customers. “We believe that this initiative would deal a huge blow to our local industry and would make it more difficult to build and sustain the kinds of safe and professional work environments we believe should be the standard,” a “Vote No 77” campaign launched by Washington, D.C. bar owners said.



     
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    Minimum wage does not usually apply to waiters
    Why not let them decide?

    Personally, I would rather they be paid a decent wage and not rely on me to subsidize their pay
     
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    I saw "Waitress Tipping" and I thought this was gonna be a thread about high school kids pushing waitresses over in the middle of the night. :uhh:
     
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    A great waitress wouldn’t work in a place where she couldn’t keep the tips.
     
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    They did in Vermont was it? They raised the minimum wage ( for people who got tips) then lowered it because bar tenders and such were complaining ..

    But I love that line that "tips" don't matter...ye because they are trying to even the wage between good waitresses and lousy ones..



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    A little off-subject maybe but I've owned both a nightclub and a First Data agency and I can confirm that waiters/waitresses are where the majority of your credit card theft comes from. So, if they can't bring your bill to the table and do a wireless transaction in front of you, pay at the front counter. Don't ever let your credit/debit card out of your sight.
     
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    They decided. They took the job.
     
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    Servers are there for the owner of the business
    He should pay them, not the customers
     
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    And here is the problem. Who do you think is pay I g for their pay raise?
    Answer. YOU ARE
     
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    They don't tip waitresses in Canada, I hear.

    I have a friend who made a LOT of money working a couple nights a week tending bar for many years at the same place--had her regulars, could bring home hundreds in an evening. I know she would not have been clapping for $15 an hour.
     
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