Wait a second...education spending

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    In another thread it was mentioned that in NY our Progressive, sabotaged educational system spends $18,000/per student only to watch 1/3 of our students drop out of high school (40% of minorities drop out of the fucking hellhole that is Progressive education)

    A report, linked below, broke out the spending on a per student basis.

    NY spending on teachers $8,070
    NY Spending on teacher benefits $3,474

    Um, wait a second. Why show it on per student? Isn't it more honest and accurate to show it per teacher?

    Hmmm, NYC has 1.1MM students and 75K teachers, so there are 14.6 students per teacher, so 8,070+3,474 = 11,544 * 14.6 = $169,312!!

    Time to voucher out the educational system.

    New York leads all states in school spending per student | syracuse.com

    New York City Department of Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Spending must include retirees....probably nevermind, but I'd like to see a budget
     
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    Where do the costs for the aides, janitors, speech therapists, occupational therapsists, behavioral therapists, guidance counselors, psychologists, secretaries, principals, boiler operators, bus drivers, contractors, carpenters, etc come in? Oh, forgot the nurses, hearing and eye screeners, remedial reading teachers, lunch ladies, cooks, playground assistants, vice principals, curriculum soecialis superintendents, treasurers, payroll people do I have to go through administrative people as well?

    The cost is astounding and if we looked around at what it costs today and what jobs we take from the parents we could cut costs around the board. Remember in the day when parents took their kids to the eye doctor and and got their hearing checked if there was thought to be a problem? If a child had an emotional problem the parents ddid the right thing and sought help. Not these days. The burden is on the school.

    Remember when children ate at home? Or brought their own lunch from home? Were children starving at school? No. Children dying of epidemics of rickets?

    The school takes parents responsibilities away. We enable parents to be lazy.
     
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    Vouchers are fine as long as the parent only gets as much school tax mohney as they paid in. Otherwise it is subsidizing private enterprise with others tax dollars.
     
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    Only because that is apparently what parents want....and parents are the tax payers in the school district so it seems, they are getting their way.

    Schools just don't come up with this stuff...parents more than likely request a lot of the stuff or the parents just don't have the time to get involved the way they used to because most all moms have to work outside of the home in today's world, vs when maybe you and I were young....my mom walked me to school, made and packed my lunch, dressed me, combed my hair, she was there to greet me to walk home together, and dinner was ready when dad walked through the door, of an immaculate house that anyone would be pleased to eat off the floor of...she sewed our clothes because we could not afford to buy them from a store....she helped both my sister and I with our homework if we needed it every night, and homework was done before we were allowed outside to play...but my mom's full time job was being a home maker, and she had the time and energy to do all those things for her 2 little girls.

    I think changes in the family unit are what have changed our schools, NOT the other way around.....
     
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    Go talk to a teacher and you will learn that she can't teach math or english because she too busy dealing with the bad behavior that they learn at home. Parents threaten the teacher if the kids grades are not good enought and never think that the real responsibility lies with them. This is the biggest probelm we face, if we have this many dropping out who will do the job that require knowledge or skill.
     
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    School taxes are a bit high for a babysitting service.
     
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    We tried it your way for 60 years and it's an Epic Fail
     
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    How does NY rank in educating children out of the rest of the States?
     
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    Do the teachers in upstate NY make less than those who teach in NYC?
     

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