W.H. to House GOP: We're not moving

[bigrebnc1775]

Are you seriously trying to claim that there was no adverse economic problems because of the New Deal? If you haven't noticed, we are still under the New Deal economic plan. Government spends money on programs to create jobs. When has that stopped? Unfortunately, it hasn't. So now we have nearly 80 years of policy building up to a head.

The New Deal ushered in period of economic growth and prosperity which lasted until the late 1980's. But it would be difficult to assess it's economic impact on the American economy in isolation without considering the impact World War II and the Baby Boom.

For example food stamps became a National program in 1984 under Richard Nixon. In 1979, when Reagan was elected, there were 20 million people receiving food stamps. In spite of increases in the eligibility requirements and reductions in the benefits paid, under Reagan, food stamp useage exploded under Reagan, more than 8 million people were added to the rolls by the end of Reagan's first term. That explosion of useage comes in spite of the lower employment rates during Reagan's first time and the massive tax cuts given to the wealthy. That's also more than a 33% increase in the number of people receiving assistance under Reagan than under Carter.

During the Clinton Administration, costs under the program plummetted, party because the Clinton Administration produced a lot of new jobs, and party because of the Welfare Reform Act of 1996 which capped benfits over a three year period and increased the eligible income level. In other words, after 14 years of the Republican putting more and more people on food stamps, Clinton kicked them off.

From 2002 to 2005, the cost of the SNAP program grew by 37% per year. That's more than double what the program was costing when W took office. The use and cost of social programs has exploded under Republican administrations.

Now that low wage corporations like Walmart have started using food stamps and Medicaid to subsidize record profits, and the entire big box industry is instructing their workers to apply for food stamps and other government programs, rather than pay them a living wage, use of the SNAP program and other social programs are continuing to increase under Obama.

Bush created the fiscal problem with Medicare Part D because it was a pre-election give-away to the elderly to get them to vote for him. A typical Republican cut taxes and spend program, that lack of funding comes home to roost next year.

Whatever you want to say about Obamacare, and the new taxes to pay for it, it least it has taxes to pay for it.

The New Deal Was a Failure - American Memory Timeline- Classroom Presentation | Teacher Resources - Library of Congress

 

[The Rabbi]

Are you seriously trying to claim that there was no adverse economic problems because of the New Deal? If you haven't noticed, we are still under the New Deal economic plan. Government spends money on programs to create jobs. When has that stopped? Unfortunately, it hasn't. So now we have nearly 80 years of policy building up to a head.

The New Deal ushered in period of economic growth and prosperity which lasted until the late 1980's. But it would be difficult to assess it's economic impact on the American economy in isolation without considering the impact World War II and the Baby Boom.

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Which is why Kennedy cut taxes in 1960 to increase economic growth. And why the recession of 1974-75 never happened. And why we didnt have double digit inflation in the late 1970s-early 1980s.

Where do they teach this crap??

 

[P@triot]

Don't pay your taxes, America.There. Solved. Next problem. Wouldn't that be something, if America simply said, "Enough!" If Americans didn't eat Hamburger Helper and keep the thermostat at 66 degrees all winter so they could save enough money to give to the federal government, which would once again spend it like Liberace at a candelabra shop? (Sorry to those under 50 - for the younger set, think Miley Cyrus at a tattoo parlor).

What if Americans decided that the federal government and the 535 men and women in Congress paid - by us - to run our government just aren't up to the task? What if they said - all 308 million (yes, all the babies, too) - that those servants we've hired may even be suffering from dementia and must be stopped immediately? They must be nuts, right, thinking they can spend $3.6 trillion when we give them only $2.5 trillion?

CURL: The five-word solution to the 'fiscal cliff' - Washington Times

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Boehner and some of the other Moderates we need to terminate should give Obama his tax increase, he already committed political sepukku by trying to fuck the Conservatives, he should end his career as a try Moderate

 

[GoneBezerk]

It's clear Obamination wants to drive this country off a cliff with more taxes and more spending, not lower taxes and less spending.

The idiots voted him back into office, so now they must suffer the mess they have supported.....hopefully they suffer a long terrible fall to the bottom.

 

[Dragonlady]

Boehner and some of the other Moderates we need to terminate should give Obama his tax increase, he already committed political sepukku by trying to fuck the Conservatives, he should end his career as a try Moderate

Committing political suicide means getting re-elected???? Who knew?

 

[Oldstyle]

Raygunn was one of the BIGGEST FLOPS for Presidents we've had in the last century.

The only thing that RW palooka was successful at doing was in making RWers FEEL good about themselves.

His policies ushered in total and complete mayhem and chaos, followed by Bush II's nonsense and we had damn near TOTAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE.

Enough is enough, we've tried it the RW way and it. does. not. work.

Just wait until this guy that we have now is done....
There is no telling if this country will be able to recover from the massive debt
that is gonna wipe us out...

And where is our fearless leader....
Still out on the campaign trail...
Getting his ass kissed.

Wishful thinking.

You guys have no leg to stand on...you let Bush run hogwild and roughshod on the economy.

You STILL defend him.

I don't wanna hear it.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, Marc but didn't the Democrats control Congress...and thus the "purse strings" for much of W's second term? Did they do anything to slow down spending...or did they actually increase it dramatically? When Bush was calling for stricter controls over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prevent a housing crash wasn't it Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd that pooh poohed those calls and assured us that there was no problem with government backed mortgages? Did you not want to hear that as well?

 

[P@triot]

At yesterday’s fiscal cliff campaign stop in Redford, Michigan, President Obama delivered these remarks and hammered away at his “balanced” plan to avert the fiscal cliff.

"Balance", as defined in the President’s plan, consists of $4 in tax increases up front for every $1 in loosely defined spending cuts promised down the road. The balance scale at the White House, it seems, needs to be recalibrated.

Tax Increases Won

 

[Shelzin]

None of it matters if there are loopholes for the large corporations to avoid paying taxes. It's all kinda bullshit anyway... I mean this forces doctors and what not to pay taxes... But the people who pay the doctors don't. When they SAY this is supposed to be taxing them. You don't tax more... You just fix the tax code and stop spending so much damn money.

 

[thereisnospoon]

At yesterday’s fiscal cliff campaign stop in Redford, Michigan, President Obama delivered these remarks and hammered away at his “balanced” plan to avert the fiscal cliff.

"Balance", as defined in the President’s plan, consists of $4 in tax increases up front for every $1 in loosely defined spending cuts promised down the road. The balance scale at the White House, it seems, needs to be recalibrated.

Tax Increases Won

Once Obama gets his money grab, there will be no spending cuts. Trust me on this.
Obama does not govern. He rules. He has divided this country on a scale to where it will take decades to put it back together.
This is the Marxist way. Divide and conquer.