VW fined up to 18 billion for rigging clean air tests for their vehicles.

[rdean]

VW Chief 'Sorry' After EPA Says Firm Skirted Clean Air Law

The CEO of Volkswagen apologized Sunday and VW customers said they felt duped after the Environmental Protection Agency revealed that the German automaker skirted clean air rules by rigging emissions tests for about 500,000 diesel cars.

The EPA said VW faces fines of up to $37,500 per vehicle for the violations — a total of more than $18 billion. The California Air Resources Board is also investigating.
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I bet Republicans are pissed. We all know what they think about the value of clean air.

 

[DarkFury]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

 

[flacaltenn]

That's gonna leave a mark on VW.. My bet is however -- that the Cali ARBoard was ALSO probably duped by VW because they LOVED them some "enviro diesels".. I remember folks trying to tell me how clean they were..

Here's the beef on this story that the mental midgets in the press haven't latched onto yet...
EPA has CONSISTENTLY put the VW Jetta and other diesels into there "GREENEST LIST".. Based on emissions !!!! EPA also loves them some diesels.. My bet is --- they've been duped for 5 years or more and are just now figuring it out..

Find a Vehicle | Green Vehicle Guide | US EPA

Heck -- if the VW diesels are so clean ------ why would VW HAVE to cheat??? It's OBVIOUS they duped the EPA...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Deany is both

 

[rdean]

Half a Million Volkswagens Found to Contain Emissions-Hiding Software

 

[rdean]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

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Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

 

[rdean]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Deany is both

Ahh, the lemming chimes in.

 

[DarkFury]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

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Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Unless YOU can SHOW where the GOP wrote the software in ANOTHER country for those cars to cheat you got NOTHING. So show us the LINK idiot.

 

[imawhosure]

Wow, you don't mean an automaker from a European socialist country cheated! Holy guacamole their Batman. And we are surprised how?

 

[flacaltenn]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

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Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Those POOR folks.. Their anger should be directed to the EPA who listed those cars as COMPLETELY GREEN. And allowed the fraud to continue. When VW can dupe the EPA for about 10 years ---- Why the Fuck do those buyers need them?

HOW CAN THEY BE THAT INCOMPETENT?
Now the issue MAY BE that those cars ARE as green as everyone says. But then why would V- Dub go to such lengths to boogie with the software?

Let Car and Driver or Consumer Reports do the emissions testing and fuel mileage estimates..

 

[flacaltenn]

Article says the Software covers up a NOx problem that can exceed the National standard by as much as 40X.

Where are all those guys who trying to tell me that the VW turbo diesels were the cleanest cars on the street?
Gonna look them up and collect my bets..

 

[Billy_Bob]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

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Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Those POOR folks.. Their anger should be directed to the EPA who listed those cars as COMPLETELY GREEN. And allowed the fraud to continue. When VW can dupe the EPA for about 10 years ---- Why the Fuck do those buyers need them?

HOW CAN THEY BE THAT INCOMPETENT?
Now the issue MAY BE that those cars ARE as green as everyone says. But then why would V- Dub go to such lengths to boogie with the software?

Let Car and Driver or Consumer Reports do the emissions testing and fuel mileage estimates..

They are environmental marxist democrats and too stupid to check for themselves. Low Information voters or parrots... Both are on the same level of intelligence. I am sure RDean has his Obama phone and his welfare check..

AS for VW cheating, Democrats were beaten in their own power and control game. Now they are trying like hell to save face that they were duped and shown incompetent.

 

[Crick]

The modifications made to the cars would allow them to produce false results wherever they were tested: Europe, the US or anywhere else.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So do they have the same inspection rules as Iran and it's nuke program?

 

[rdean]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

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Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Those POOR folks.. Their anger should be directed to the EPA who listed those cars as COMPLETELY GREEN. And allowed the fraud to continue. When VW can dupe the EPA for about 10 years ---- Why the Fuck do those buyers need them?

HOW CAN THEY BE THAT INCOMPETENT?
Now the issue MAY BE that those cars ARE as green as everyone says. But then why would V- Dub go to such lengths to boogie with the software?

Let Car and Driver or Consumer Reports do the emissions testing and fuel mileage estimates..

They are environmental marxist democrats and too stupid to check for themselves. Low Information voters or parrots... Both are on the same level of intelligence. I am sure RDean has his Obama phone and his welfare check..

AS for VW cheating, Democrats were beaten in their own power and control game. Now they are trying like hell to save face that they were duped and shown incompetent.

Come on. If Republicans ever discovered such a cheat, they wouldn't say a thing and you know it.

 

[rdean]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

-------------------------------

Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Unless YOU can SHOW where the GOP wrote the software in ANOTHER country for those cars to cheat you got NOTHING. So show us the LINK idiot.

I guess you have a point somewhere beside the one on top of your tiny little head, but I don't know what it is. It's simply too obscure for me to waste the time to try and figure it out.

 

[flacaltenn]

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

-------------------------------

Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Unless YOU can SHOW where the GOP wrote the software in ANOTHER country for those cars to cheat you got NOTHING. So show us the LINK idiot.

I guess you have a point somewhere beside the one on top of your tiny little head, but I don't know what it is. It's simply too obscure for me to waste the time to try and figure it out.

The OP must have had a extra bowl of stupid this morning. GERMANS {they live in Europe idiot} cheated on a test in Europe. {kind of a whole different country idiot} and are NOT a Republican led government.

The Clean Air and Water act was signed by Richard Nixon and pushed by Republicans. So the OP has the wrong country the wrong people and gives credit wrong.

Does he lie or is he just stupid? YOU decide. I vote stupid.

Zeeshan Shah, 39, of Fulton, Maryland, said that he bought a Volkswagen Diesel Passat 2015 model in July after he totaled his Jetta two years ago.

San Francisco resident Marsha Riggs, who owns a 2009 Jetta SportWagen, said she was shocked. "I bought this car because I thought it was clean," she said. "And it's not clean." She had been happy with the car but now doubts she'd buy another Volkswagen. "They sort of compromised that trust," she said.

-------------------------------

Who said Germans are a Republican led government?

And remember, it's Republicans who complain about the cost of clean air and clean water.

Finally, it wasn't the anti science GOP of today who are the same Republicans who started NASA. Everyone knows that.

Seems to me you might be a bit confused. Actually, you are fucking delusional.

Those POOR folks.. Their anger should be directed to the EPA who listed those cars as COMPLETELY GREEN. And allowed the fraud to continue. When VW can dupe the EPA for about 10 years ---- Why the Fuck do those buyers need them?

HOW CAN THEY BE THAT INCOMPETENT?
Now the issue MAY BE that those cars ARE as green as everyone says. But then why would V- Dub go to such lengths to boogie with the software?

Let Car and Driver or Consumer Reports do the emissions testing and fuel mileage estimates..

They are environmental marxist democrats and too stupid to check for themselves. Low Information voters or parrots... Both are on the same level of intelligence. I am sure RDean has his Obama phone and his welfare check..

AS for VW cheating, Democrats were beaten in their own power and control game. Now they are trying like hell to save face that they were duped and shown incompetent.

Come on. If Republicans ever discovered such a cheat, they wouldn't say a thing and you know it.

You're kidding right? If Repubs ever discovered that the EPA was punked for over a decade by a car manufacturer because they were too incompetent to do their own INDEPENDENT testing -- there would be hearings, and ATTEMPTS to fire the jerks in charge. OR like I said -- to make the case that consumers might be better off with Car and Driver or Consumer Reports doing the testing and calls to cut the EPA down to a MANAGEABLE and ACCOUNTABLE organization..

 

[Mr. H.]

I bet Republicans are pissed. We all know what they think about the value of clean air.

I was about to click the "Informative" button when lo and behold, the typical rdean "kicker".

East shit you moron.

U.S. air quality is the best it's been in decades thanks to the increased use of natural gas thanks to hydraulic fracturing thanks to Republican ingenuity and investment.

New York's Democrat Governor outlawed hydraulic fracturing in that state despite the huge reserves of natural gas waiting to be tapped. Lost jobs, lost tax revenue, lost investment in that state. BUT - New York state is enjoying the lowest natural gas bills in many years thanks to Republican governors in neighboring states who have no problem with the sound and safe SCIENCE behind hydraulic fracturing.

 

[Mr. H.]

I bet Republicans are pissed. We all know what they think about the value of clean air.

The truth is, and it's obvious, you don't know jack shit about Republicans.

I'm a small business owner and I spend thousands of dollars each year complying with local, state, and federal environmental rules and regulations. I pay fees out the ass each year for permits from the DNR. I am much more environmentally responsible than the farmers among which my facilities are operating.

At home we recycle, we compost, we have planted dozens of trees and shrubs around our properties. Mrs. H. at one time had Master Gardener certification.

You're a petty snide little cretin filled with hate and I am sick and tired of your sniping.

 

[zaangalewa]

VW and the USA. An endless story of desasters. I don't have any idea why the idiots from VW don't leave the USA. This market is completly uninteresting for VW. They never did anything else than to lose money there.