Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues

[del]

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

Before I even looked, I KNEW it would be a Rasmussen report.

that rasmussen reports in the link was a good clue.

nice work, inspector clouseau!

 

[sealybobo]

Not even 30% of the registered Republicans support the current republican party.

Exactly!

I'm not going to let these Fox Polls bother me. Everytime I dig, I find some bias slant.

PS. Doesn't liberty4allwhitepeople sound a lot like a right wing republican?

He argues with us all the time and them never.

I think he's one of those 70%ers that left the GOP because they embarrassed him so bad.

Don't worry GOP, he'll be back.

 

[MaggieMae]

It seems that Americans' 'eyes' are bigger than their 'stomachs' - and they figured it out..
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Rasmussen Polling On The Issues: What A Difference A Year Makes! - Right Wing News (Conservative News and Views)

June 09, 2009

Rasmussen Polling On The Issues: What A Difference A Year Makes!

Unlike many conservatives, I think polling is extremely useful -- provided you understand how to use it. You have to know which polls are reliable and which ones aren't, be on the lookout for bias, pay more attention to trends than single polls, and understand that polling numbers are snapshots in time, not statues, forever cemented into place.

It's also worth noting, particularly on issue related polls, that the public's views on a particular issue aren't necessarily just about that issue. If the public loses confidence in someone closely identified with a political party, that party may suffer across the board. If the public comes to believe that a political party is grievously wrong on one issue, they may begin to distrust them on multiple issues.

That brings me to the Rasmussen polling data that my co-blogger Melissa Clouthier discussed yesterday on Right Wing News.

Here are the key numbers from Rasmussen that are being widely cited.
Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues, including the top issue of the economy.
Health Care: Dems +10
Education: Dems +7
Social Security: Dems +6
Abortion: Even
Economy: GOP + 6
Taxes: GOP +5
Iraq: GOP +8
Nat'l Security: GOP +15
Gov't Ethics: GOP +6
Immigration: GOP +14
At first glance, that data appears to be good news for the GOP, but that undersells it. When you look at the trends, those are actually phenomenal numbers for Republicans and terrifying numbers for the Democrats.

Why?

Because one year ago, in the June of 2008 survey from Rasmussen, the Democrats were ahead on all 10 issues,
Economy: Dems +14
Nat'l Security/War on Terror: Dems +3
Iraq: Dems +8
Gov't Ethics & Corruption: Dems +13
Health Care: Dems +17
Social Security: Dems +11
Education: Dems +16
Taxes: Dems +2
Immigration: Dems +4
Abortion: Dems +7
Those are some HUGE shifts in a year's time. 20 points on the economy. 19 points on Gov't Ethics & Corruption. 18 points on Nat'l Security/War on Terror. 18 points on immigration. The only areas where the Democrats are ahead on are Health Care, Education, Social Security -- issues where the Democrats have traditionally been as strong as the Republicans are on National Security. Given that Obama has only been in since January, chances are, the Democrats haven't come close to hitting bottom yet either.
Although it's still early and things can change, what this suggests is that the political environment of 2010 is going to be much different than it was in 2006 or 2008, when the Republicans had to run against a strong headwind. This time around, having a (D) next to a candidate's name may be as big a disadvantage as the (R) was in the last couple of elections.


We live in a society -
"of the Government, by the Government, for the Government".
We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

Just curious--did you actually READ any of the articles in that Newsweek issue, "We are All Socialists Now," or do you just think by posting the cover, that tells the whole story. It doesn't.

 

[sealybobo]

It seems that Americans' 'eyes' are bigger than their 'stomachs' - and they figured it out..
.
Rasmussen Polling On The Issues: What A Difference A Year Makes! - Right Wing News (Conservative News and Views)

June 09, 2009

Rasmussen Polling On The Issues: What A Difference A Year Makes!

Unlike many conservatives, I think polling is extremely useful -- provided you understand how to use it. You have to know which polls are reliable and which ones aren't, be on the lookout for bias, pay more attention to trends than single polls, and understand that polling numbers are snapshots in time, not statues, forever cemented into place.

It's also worth noting, particularly on issue related polls, that the public's views on a particular issue aren't necessarily just about that issue. If the public loses confidence in someone closely identified with a political party, that party may suffer across the board. If the public comes to believe that a political party is grievously wrong on one issue, they may begin to distrust them on multiple issues.

That brings me to the Rasmussen polling data that my co-blogger Melissa Clouthier discussed yesterday on Right Wing News.

Here are the key numbers from Rasmussen that are being widely cited.
Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues, including the top issue of the economy.
Health Care: Dems +10
Education: Dems +7
Social Security: Dems +6
Abortion: Even
Economy: GOP + 6
Taxes: GOP +5
Iraq: GOP +8
Nat'l Security: GOP +15
Gov't Ethics: GOP +6
Immigration: GOP +14
At first glance, that data appears to be good news for the GOP, but that undersells it. When you look at the trends, those are actually phenomenal numbers for Republicans and terrifying numbers for the Democrats.

Why?

Because one year ago, in the June of 2008 survey from Rasmussen, the Democrats were ahead on all 10 issues,
Economy: Dems +14
Nat'l Security/War on Terror: Dems +3
Iraq: Dems +8
Gov't Ethics & Corruption: Dems +13
Health Care: Dems +17
Social Security: Dems +11
Education: Dems +16
Taxes: Dems +2
Immigration: Dems +4
Abortion: Dems +7
Those are some HUGE shifts in a year's time. 20 points on the economy. 19 points on Gov't Ethics & Corruption. 18 points on Nat'l Security/War on Terror. 18 points on immigration. The only areas where the Democrats are ahead on are Health Care, Education, Social Security -- issues where the Democrats have traditionally been as strong as the Republicans are on National Security. Given that Obama has only been in since January, chances are, the Democrats haven't come close to hitting bottom yet either.
Although it's still early and things can change, what this suggests is that the political environment of 2010 is going to be much different than it was in 2006 or 2008, when the Republicans had to run against a strong headwind. This time around, having a (D) next to a candidate's name may be as big a disadvantage as the (R) was in the last couple of elections.


We live in a society -
"of the Government, by the Government, for the Government".
We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

Just curious--did you actually READ any of the articles in that Newsweek issue, "We are All Socialists Now," or do you just think by posting the cover, that tells the whole story. It doesn't.

Soaring says We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

NOW? Not the last 8 years?

OMG. The GOP ignored repeated requests to make trade between us and china fair, and the GOP everytime sided with corporate profits over American workers.

Yea, now the gov is greedy.

 

[STAND4LIBERTY]

Just curious--did you actually READ any of the articles in that Newsweek issue, "We are All Socialists Now," or do you just think by posting the cover, that tells the whole story. It doesn't.

Wow, talk about an inane response, that one deserves an award. What are you going to use for your strawman material next, his eye color?

 

[MaggieMae]

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

Before I even looked, I KNEW it would be a Rasmussen report.

that rasmussen reports in the link was a good clue.

nice work, inspector clouseau!

Huh? Here's Rasmussen's poll numbers.

The above USA poll doesn't distinguish between the parties. Rasmussen polls in REPUBLICAN strongholds; the others are not selective and thereby far more accurate. Here's all the most recent polls on the issues.

Obama Administation

This silly debate over a poll aside, I'm not surprised that Obama's numbers on the economy are dropping somewhat. That too was predictable, which is why he has said over and over and over again that we will not see any meaningful results until the end of the year, at least, and the pain is being expressed in the polls.

We are ALL nervous, including me, about the amount of spending but I still think it's way to early to start making dour predictions. Maybe you don't remember that Republicans wailed that Clinton's tax hikes would "destroy the economy," that GOP rule would mean smaller government and that Bush's tax cuts would usher in a new era of prosperity. Well Obama said right out of the gate that the economic condition of the country was abysmal and he didn't try to paint a rosy picture for you. Republicans traditionally like to sugar-coat their fiscal policies with a lot of nice can-do rhetoric, with an end result that turns out to be atrocious.

 

[editec]

Polls are interesting, of course, but only elections count.

 

[MaggieMae]

Soaring says We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

NOW? Not the last 8 years?

OMG. The GOP ignored repeated requests to make trade between us and china fair, and the GOP everytime sided with corporate profits over American workers.

Yea, now the gov is greedy.

Uh oh, not supposed to mention the past. Everything happening in and to America started on January 21, 2009. Remember?

 

[Sweet Willy]

THere is a new poll out today that shows a lack of self esteem among Republicans.

I find it hard to beleive.

 

[DiveCon]

THere is a new poll out today that shows a lack of self esteem among Republicans.

I find it hard to beleive.

do you have a link to that poll?
LOL
since i doubt it even exists

 

[MaggieMae]

Just curious--did you actually READ any of the articles in that Newsweek issue, "We are All Socialists Now," or do you just think by posting the cover, that tells the whole story. It doesn't.

Wow, talk about an inane response, that one deserves an award. What are you going to use for your strawman material next, his eye color?

Why do you have Ron Paul as your avatar? Would you object if someone asked you a question about him?

 

[STAND4LIBERTY]

Why do you have Ron Paul as your avatar? Would you object if someone asked you a question about him?

Posting a strawman based on someone's avatar (which is exactly what you did.. i.e. ".....or do you just think......" ) is rather inane and beneath you. If you asked a reasonable question about the subject matter of the avatar, that would be a completely different story, see the difference?

 

[jreeves]

Soaring says We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

NOW? Not the last 8 years?

OMG. The GOP ignored repeated requests to make trade between us and china fair, and the GOP everytime sided with corporate profits over American workers.

Yea, now the gov is greedy.

Uh oh, not supposed to mention the past. Everything happening in and to America started on January 21, 2009. Remember?

Nope, Bozothebobo and yourself don't like to acknowledge that it is both parties that have fucked this country. You only believe it was the GOP...

A democratic president signed Nafta and even touted its passage with pride. You know how Bozo likes to rail about Nafta being a Gop trade agreement......

Plus he mentions trade with China, what the hell have democrats done to make trade better? They have controlled Congress for quite a while now. If they can pass an almost 800 billion dollar 'porkalus bill', surely they could have demanded more favorable trade terms with China.

He is right the GOP has tried to help corporate America. But after all, doesn't corporations employ folks? Maybe Obama's new pay czar will help employ people....

 

[sealybobo]

Soaring says We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

NOW? Not the last 8 years?

OMG. The GOP ignored repeated requests to make trade between us and china fair, and the GOP everytime sided with corporate profits over American workers.

Yea, now the gov is greedy.

Uh oh, not supposed to mention the past. Everything happening in and to America started on January 21, 2009. Remember?

No! You are wrong! It all started with Carter, or Clinton, or when the GOP lost power in the 2006 midterm.

It had NOTHING to do with the 6 years the GOP ran things, or the last 2 where Bush and the minority GOP party obstructed any and all progress.

I posted a link yesterday about Chinese tires, and the unions are furious. It's killing American workers. They're picking one industry off at a time. Auto, trucking, steelworkers, tires, and the list goes on and on.

And they are asking Obama to fix the mess. The GOP did more than nothing to fix this problem. They CONTRIBUTED to it. They defend it. They like the cheap goods.

BUT ITS KILLING WAGES and THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS!!!

So I don't really care if Rasmussen asked a bunch of lame questions to a bunch of sheep and those sheep replied favorably to the right wing talking points, because the GOP never delivers on their campaign promises. They only say those things to win over stupid voters.

Now are Democrats perfect? No. But they'll reverse have the shit the GOP did. The GOP would continue sending jobs overseas.

So who's in favor of that? Is that one of the 10 questions that people didn't side with the GOP on? Because its a pretty big issue. I didn't even look at the 10 questions because I know how these stupid survey's work.

By the way, here is the story on the Chinese Tires.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers on Tuesday urged President Barack Obama to slap limits on imports of tires from China, saying a surge of low-cost tires was damaging U.S. industry and throwing Americans out of work.


U.S. lawmakers urge Obama to limit Chinese tires

And I heard former Bush aides/employees are now working for China and helping them find the loopholes that the GOP created for them, probably when no one was looking. The so called liberal media sure hasn't been talking about this, other than MSNBC. The liberal media sure sucks if they are actually liberal. I call them corporate/mainstream media.

 

[sealybobo]

Soaring says We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.

NOW? Not the last 8 years?

OMG. The GOP ignored repeated requests to make trade between us and china fair, and the GOP everytime sided with corporate profits over American workers.

Yea, now the gov is greedy.

Uh oh, not supposed to mention the past. Everything happening in and to America started on January 21, 2009. Remember?

Nope, Bozothebobo and yourself don't like to acknowledge that it is both parties that have fucked this country. You only believe it was the GOP...

A democratic president signed Nafta and even touted its passage with pride. You know how Bozo likes to rail about Nafta being a Gop trade agreement......

Plus he mentions trade with China, what the hell have democrats done to make trade better? They have controlled Congress for quite a while now. If they can pass an almost 800 billion dollar 'porkalus bill', surely they could have demanded more favorable trade terms with China.

He is right the GOP has tried to help corporate America. But after all, doesn't corporations employ folks? Maybe Obama's new pay czar will help employ people....

a. So you think banks that is asking for government welfare should excessively pay their ceo's? You're a fool.

b. Yes Democrats have gone along with NAFTA and free trade, but let us notice who will be against Obama fixing these problems. It will be you, the GOP and possibly the libertarians. Us Liberal Democrats will complain to Washington to fix the trade deficits. Will you help us by calling your representatives? No you will not, because you like the cheap goods and you aren't in manufacturing. And you are too short sighted to see that this will affect you too ultimately. Ignorant and arrogant.

U.S. lawmakers urge Obama to limit Chinese tires

Notice what side of this issue you are on. There lies the difference between the parties. You will start crying about ISOLATIONISM, PROTECTIONISM, TARIFFS, REGULATIONS, and any other fixes to this problem. How do I know? I've been having this argument with ahole right wingers for 10 years.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers on Tuesday urged President Barack Obama to slap limits on imports of tires from China, saying a surge of low-cost tires was damaging U.S. industry and throwing Americans out of work.

 

[STAND4LIBERTY]

a. So you think banks that is asking for government welfare should excessively pay their ceo's? You're a fool.

Actually it's the fool that gives banks government welfare in the first place, once you give them free money what incentive do they have to begin practicing sound business? It's akin to giving an alcoholic free booze and then being surprised when he starts drinking it...

b. Yes Democrats have gone along with NAFTA and free trade, but let us notice who will be against Obama fixing these problems. It will be you, the GOP and possibly the libertarians. Us Liberal Democrats will complain to Washington to fix the trade deficits. Will you help us by calling your representatives? No you will not, because you like the cheap goods and you aren't in manufacturing. And you are too short sighted to see that this will affect you too ultimately. Ignorant and arrogant.

The problem with NAFTA is that it was a good idea in principle but poorly designed and poorly implemented (the SOP for the Federal Gub'ment). The only way to "fix" trade deficits is for American Industry to increase it's global competitiveness (so foreigners want to buy more from us) and for Americans to consume less & save more. Real economic growth comes from SAVINGS not BORROWING, we have become a nation of borrowers, we borrow from the future to satisfy our consumption wants in the present, this is the source of our trade deficits and is an enormous drag on our economic growth. Protectionism will NOT address this problem it will only exacerbate it by making our industry less competitive and inviting retaliation from our trading partners. We need the Federal Government to get the heck out of the way not get more involved, government bears the largest responsibility for creating our economic woes in the first place and is clearly not the solution to them.

 

[midcan5]

Without looking, let me guess:

Corporate welfare
robbing from the poor to give to the rich
ruining the environment
screwing the working person
home schooling and ID as science
allowing religion to interfere in your bedroom and your life

Did I get them all?

 

[MaggieMae]

Why do you have Ron Paul as your avatar? Would you object if someone asked you a question about him?

Posting a strawman based on someone's avatar (which is exactly what you did.. i.e. ".....or do you just think......" ) is rather inane and beneath you. If you asked a reasonable question about the subject matter of the avatar, that would be a completely different story, see the difference?

You mean we haven't been discussing "socialism" in just about every single thread on this board? Coulda fooled me.

 

[del]

Why do you have Ron Paul as your avatar? Would you object if someone asked you a question about him?

Posting a strawman based on someone's avatar (which is exactly what you did.. i.e. ".....or do you just think......" ) is rather inane and beneath you. If you asked a reasonable question about the subject matter of the avatar, that would be a completely different story, see the difference?

You mean we haven't been discussing "socialism" in just about every single thread on this board? Coulda fooled me.

apparently

 

[MaggieMae]

Posting a strawman based on someone's avatar (which is exactly what you did.. i.e. ".....or do you just think......" ) is rather inane and beneath you. If you asked a reasonable question about the subject matter of the avatar, that would be a completely different story, see the difference?

You mean we haven't been discussing "socialism" in just about every single thread on this board? Coulda fooled me.

apparently

You basically have nothing to say, but still feel this need to pick on me. Shall I send you a photograph? Kiss kiss...