Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy

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Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama's handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Bush is responsible for the nation's dismal financial state.

....the Quinnipiac poll finds more Americans trust the president on the issue than the GOP congress, 45 percent to 38 percent. Meanwhile, 48 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the GOP congress if a debt deal isn't approved, compared to 34 percent who say they will blame the Obama administration.

Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

Honestly, I wish everyone would stop the blame game and worry more about addressing the problems we face. People are never going to agree completely on anything, so it would really be beneficial if our representatives tried working together to actually achieve something that makes sense rather than sticking to their ideological ideas that are taking us all down the path of destruction.

 

[Kuros]

A major difference between Bush and Obama is that Obama knew what he was getting into while Bush (and the rest of the world) didn't. Deregulation of the financial industry in the 90s was unprecedented and we were unprepared for it's disastrous effect in the 2000s, as was Bush. Obama, on the other hand, witnessed the implosion from the sidelines and told the US he could fix it if we put him in the game. Rather than fix or even keep it leveled off, he's gone out of his way to enact his own failure agenda which has simply made the situation a lot worse right now than it needed to be.

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This.

But the economic crisis is still Bush's fault. I don't see how that helps us get out of it.

And even though the economic crisis is not Obama's fault, he can't take any comfort in it, because he's continued many of the policies of his predecessor. Thus, he's shown that he was in fact too inexperienced, and he didn't know what he was getting into, and much less does he now know what he is doing.

 

[auditor0007]

A major difference between Bush and Obama is that Obama knew what he was getting into while Bush (and the rest of the world) didn't. Deregulation of the financial industry in the 90s was unprecedented and we were unprepared for it's disastrous effect in the 2000s, as was Bush. Obama, on the other hand, witnessed the implosion from the sidelines and told the US he could fix it if we put him in the game. Rather than fix or even keep it leveled off, he's gone out of his way to enact his own failure agenda which has simply made the situation a lot worse right now than it needed to be.

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This.

But the economic crisis is still Bush's fault. I don't see how that helps us get out of it.

And even though the economic crisis is not Obama's fault, he can't take any comfort in it, because he's continued many of the policies of his predecessor. Thus, he's shown that he was in fact too inexperienced, and he didn't know what he was getting into, and much less does he now know what he is doing.

We keep hearing how Obama made it worse, but the fact is that there is no proof of this. While there are some who say that he did make it worse and everything would have rebounded had we just let all the banks and auto companies fail, many disagree with that sentiment and believe we would have faced a total collapse of the economy, where we would now be in much worse shape than we are. What is scary to me is that the biggest group who insist Obama "made it worse" are the same people who see no problem in letting us default by not raising the debt ceiling.

 

[editec]

Nobody can really KNOW if Obama made things worse or not.

I think he failed to make it as better as he might, but as to his making it worse?

That I rather doubt.

This economic disaster was going to happen no matter who won the 2008 election, and nothing that the GOP is proposing is going to make things better, either.

 

[hjmick]

Further proof that you are a rabid RW hack.

Even if you buy that "Obama made it worse" swill.

That statement alone implies that he DIDN'T start it.

Just wasn't able to fix the mess.

Snap out of it fool!

You know me not at all.

I blame Bush. I blame Obama. I blame Pelosi. I blame Boehner. I blame Reid. I blame all of Washington. Democrat, Republicans, Lobbyists, whoever. They all had a hand in fucking up this country. To believe otherwise makes you the fool.

Your post is proof that you are a rabid LW hack.

Funny, all I've ever seen from you is "Obama did it" nonsensical rhetoric.

Be fair MFer, be fair.

You must be thinking of someone else my friend 'cause that ain't me. I've blamed Obama when I felt the blame was his, I've defended him when I felt the blame was unjust. I did the same with Bush, Clinton, and so on. I freely admit that I do not agree with many of Obama's policies, but I didn't agree with much of what Bush did either.

I always do my best to fair and I believe I succeed more often than not. But that's just my opinion...

And for the record, I do not believe anyone would have done any better under these circumstances, certainly not John McCain.

 

[auditor0007]

Nobody can really KNOW if Obama made things worse or not.

I think he failed to make it as better as he might, but as to his making it worse?

That I rather doubt.

This economic disaster was going to happen no matter who won the 2008 election, and nothing that the GOP is proposing is going to make things better, either.

We have a major problem that will not easily be resolved. The baby boomers are done spending and most of their earnings are now geared toward saving for retirement. All that spending cannot be replaced overnight, and it was the driving force of our economy over the last twenty years. Give these people greater reduction in taxes, and all they will do is sock it away for retirement.

 

[auditor0007]

Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama's handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Bush is responsible for the nation's dismal financial state.

....the Quinnipiac poll finds more Americans trust the president on the issue than the GOP congress, 45 percent to 38 percent. Meanwhile, 48 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the GOP congress if a debt deal isn't approved, compared to 34 percent who say they will blame the Obama administration.

Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

Seems the people aren't getting lost in the RNC propaganda machine anymore. Woe for republicans in the next election.

For the most part, voters just vote against what they feel they are fed up with regardless if it makes sense or not. Whoever comes up with the best one liners usually win. Make people believe that they are paying too much in taxes and government spending is the problem, and they will vote for less taxes and less spending. That is always the easy one anyway. Of course when they start to see spending cuts that actually effect them, then they might start thinking twice about the lower taxes. Then they'll vote to raise someone else's taxes to support programs that benefit them. Bottom line is that most voters vote their pocketbook with little regard to what is most beneficial for the entire country or the economy.

 

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Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

he probably won't run again.


dope

Tell that to the MAJORITY of the American voters that correctly realize that Bush's policies are mostly to blame even today.

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the majority of american voters, like you, are fuckwits.

rock on

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama's handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Bush is responsible for the nation's dismal financial state.

....the Quinnipiac poll finds more Americans trust the president on the issue than the GOP congress, 45 percent to 38 percent. Meanwhile, 48 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the GOP congress if a debt deal isn't approved, compared to 34 percent who say they will blame the Obama administration.

Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

I guess lots of people won't be voting for Bush in 2012. LOL!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

fixed it for you>


2. What one faction of society receives without working for, like the wall street bailiouts inarguably the biggest monetary act of socialism ever, another faction must work for without receiving.

The bank bailouts have been repaid, at a profit to the Treasury.
The auto bailouts, the mortgage reductions and the Fannie and Freddie bailouts is where the taxpayer got screwed.

 

[Sallow]

Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama's handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Bush is responsible for the nation's dismal financial state.

....the Quinnipiac poll finds more Americans trust the president on the issue than the GOP congress, 45 percent to 38 percent. Meanwhile, 48 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the GOP congress if a debt deal isn't approved, compared to 34 percent who say they will blame the Obama administration.

Voters blame Bush more than Obama for the economy | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

he probably won't run again.


dope

He may not..but who knows?

Besides there are a coupla more Bushes to go.

 

[Sallow]

fixed it for you>


2. What one faction of society receives without working for, like the wall street bailiouts inarguably the biggest monetary act of socialism ever, another faction must work for without receiving.

The bank bailouts have been repaid, at a profit to the Treasury.
The auto bailouts, the mortgage reductions and the Fannie and Freddie bailouts is where the taxpayer got screwed.

Yeah..kinda sucks they were saddled with all the bad debt the financial industry generated..but heck..what can you do.

Sorta like a second bailout that never got paid back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the blame game you can blame Carter whose tax reduction and lack of impetus on energy independence wasn't strong enough, you can blame Reagan for growing the military industrial complex's power while hurting working Americans through regulatory nonsense, even though Reagan raised taxes like crazy his ideas have been pernicious, you can blame Clinton for NAFTA and other kowtows to corporate power with his lessening of regulatory structure, Bush Jr was so momentous a failure even his voting base thinks he failed, his money base still loves him, and I blame Obama today for not being FDR. But I guess FDRs come rarely. Allowing the tax breaks Bush gave the wealthy has been a complete failure and Obama didn't fight hard enough to repeal them. BUT FINALLY you can blame the American voters who vote for buffoons, and the buffoons who sit home thinking none of this has any effect on me. Go look in the mirror.

PS I was watching a Tea party freshman congressman interviewed the other day and this man was so dumb it simply boggled my mind. He blamed the entire economic situation on Obama with not a thought of the real world. When fools like this are elected America gets what it voted for: complete and utter idiots.


"The materialistic and selfish quality of contemporary life is not inherent in the human condition. Much of what appears natural today dates from the 1980s: the obsession with wealth creation, the cult of privatization and the private sector, the growing disparities of rich and poor. And above all, the rhetoric which accompanies these: uncritical admiration for unfettered markets, disdain for the public sector, the delusion of endless growth." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'

even though Reagan raised taxes like crazy

Reagan enters office, top tax rate 70%.
Reagan leaves office, top tax rate 28%.

Is it Reagan's fault that you failed math class?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Further proof that you are a rabid RW hack.

Even if you buy that "Obama made it worse" swill.

That statement alone implies that he DIDN'T start it.

Just wasn't able to fix the mess.

Snap out of it fool!

He couldn't fix it therefore he failed and should be replaced.

You and your ilk are nothing by Far RW liars.

That is NOT the message that you're giving, the message is, it's all Obama's fault and he has to be taken out.

Mitch said his number one job is the make Obama a one-term President, and this was at the VERY beginning of his Presidency.

Stop lying.

I am not a repugnantcan and could hardly be considered far right wing with my extreme personal liberty stance.

Try to think in terms other than 2 dimensions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

fixed it for you>


2. What one faction of society receives without working for, like the wall street bailiouts inarguably the biggest monetary act of socialism ever, another faction must work for without receiving.

The bank bailouts have been repaid, at a profit to the Treasury.
The auto bailouts, the mortgage reductions and the Fannie and Freddie bailouts is where the taxpayer got screwed.

Yeah..kinda sucks they were saddled with all the bad debt the financial industry generated..but heck..what can you do.

Sorta like a second bailout that never got paid back.

Yeah, it's a good think Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were there to make sure Fannie and Freddie could cost us hundreds of billions. Good job!

 

[chikenwing]

mmmmmmmm so why the big turnover last fall??? if the voters blame the repubs,why the huge gains in congress?? just doesn't add up now does it??

 

[mudwhistle]

Repeating lies over and over doesnt seem to be affecting the public. They know who got us into this mess

What's more important now is that they start to recognize who simply doesn't want to get us out of it or doesn't know how.

 

[mudwhistle]

What was the usual response for any proposal Bush made from the Democrats?

"It Doesn't Go Far Enough!!!"

Remember that the next time you accuse Bush of increasing the debt.

 

[Hope_and_change]

Obama and the Democrats are issuing dire warnings that the U.S. may default on its debts if the debt ceiling is not increased. This is a false threat. If the debt ceiling is not increased by August 2, it is highly unlikely that even one member of Congress would vote to stop paying on debt owed. They would not dare to be seen as voting to stiff other countries on money owed them by the U.S. Defaulting on our debt is a red herring argument Democrats are using to force people into thinking our only choices are raising the debt ceiling or raising taxes by closing tax loopholes. In actuality, once the debt ceiling is reached, it will come down to a choice of either raising taxes or finding areas to cut spending. Democrats don’t want to admit that cutting spending is a realistic choice. They are too dependent upon the votes of people who expect handouts.

 

[ClosedCaption]

What was the usual response for any proposal Bush made from the Democrats?

"I Doesn't Go Far Enough!!!"

Remember that the next time you accuse Bush of increasing the debt.

oh yeah I remember that....not