Virtue: Liberalism ...

they were wise, yet you dont know their name? Kind of sad.

BTW I highly doubt they were talking about political philosophy and if by chance they were, they probably wouldnt be talking about Progressivism which coopted the term liberalism and altered it from it's original meaning.
 
Against radical academic critics who reject liberalism because they equate it with Enlightenment reason and individual property holding, Kloppenberg shows the historical roots of American liberals' dual commitments to diversity, manifested in institutions designed to facilitate deliberative democracy, and to government regulations of property and market exchange in accordance with the public good.

In contrast to prevailing tendencies to simplify and distort American liberalism, Kloppenberg shows how the multifaceted virtues of liberalism have inspired theorists and reformers from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison through Jane Addams and John Dewey to Martin Luther King, Jr., and then explains how these virtues persist in the work of some liberal democrats today. Endorsing the efforts of such neo-progressive and communitarian theorists and journalists as Michael Walzer, Jane Mansbridge, Michael Sandel, and E. J. Dionne, Kloppenberg also offers a more acute analysis of the historical development of American liberalism and of the complex reasons why it has been transformed and made more vulnerable in recent decades.

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Conservative pundits have demonized the term "liberalism".

No. We just have gotten tired of progressives lying about what it really is.

No, you just want to use the term "liberal" as if it were a dirty word. It's "us vs them" thinking. Demonize your opponent.

Both Bushbots and Obamabots use the term liberal incorrectly. Liberal doesn't mean gov't gets a blank check to make and run as many programs as possible, which is what both sides pretend it means most of the time.
 
they were wise, yet you dont know their name? Kind of sad.

BTW I highly doubt they were talking about political philosophy and if by chance they were, they probably wouldnt be talking about Progressivism which coopted the term liberalism and altered it from it's original meaning.

you don't think, but if they were?

any more bases you want to cover? :laugh2: no wonder you love Romney
 
Against radical academic critics who reject liberalism because they equate it with Enlightenment reason and individual property holding, Kloppenberg shows the historical roots of American liberals' dual commitments to diversity, manifested in institutions designed to facilitate deliberative democracy, and to government regulations of property and market exchange in accordance with the public good.

In contrast to prevailing tendencies to simplify and distort American liberalism, Kloppenberg shows how the multifaceted virtues of liberalism have inspired theorists and reformers from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison through Jane Addams and John Dewey to Martin Luther King, Jr., and then explains how these virtues persist in the work of some liberal democrats today. Endorsing the efforts of such neo-progressive and communitarian theorists and journalists as Michael Walzer, Jane Mansbridge, Michael Sandel, and E. J. Dionne, Kloppenberg also offers a more acute analysis of the historical development of American liberalism and of the complex reasons why it has been transformed and made more vulnerable in recent decades.

Amazon.com: The Virtues of Liberalism (9780195140569): James T. Kloppenberg: Books

thank you

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Against radical academic critics who reject liberalism because they equate it with Enlightenment reason and individual property holding, Kloppenberg shows the historical roots of American liberals' dual commitments to diversity, manifested in institutions designed to facilitate deliberative democracy, and to government regulations of property and market exchange in accordance with the public good.

In contrast to prevailing tendencies to simplify and distort American liberalism, Kloppenberg shows how the multifaceted virtues of liberalism have inspired theorists and reformers from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison through Jane Addams and John Dewey to Martin Luther King, Jr., and then explains how these virtues persist in the work of some liberal democrats today. Endorsing the efforts of such neo-progressive and communitarian theorists and journalists as Michael Walzer, Jane Mansbridge, Michael Sandel, and E. J. Dionne, Kloppenberg also offers a more acute analysis of the historical development of American liberalism and of the complex reasons why it has been transformed and made more vulnerable in recent decades.

Amazon.com: The Virtues of Liberalism (9780195140569): James T. Kloppenberg: Books

Yes, the Founders were the radical 'liberals' of their time. However, the needs of today are not those of 1776.
 
Yes, the Founders were the radical 'liberals' of their time. However, the needs of today are not those of 1776.

Ah the "modern times" argument, which, ironically, has been used since the dawn of civilization to justify control by central planners...because only they know what's best for others...:eusa_eh:

But sure, the transition from horse to horseless carriage necessitates universal healthcare, welfare, food stamps, etc, etc, etc...:cuckoo:
 
Yes, the Founders were the radical 'liberals' of their time. However, the needs of today are not those of 1776.

Ah the "modern times" argument, which, ironically, has been used since the dawn of civilization to justify control by central planners...because only they know what's best for others...:eusa_eh:

But sure, the transition from horse to horseless carriage necessitates universal healthcare, welfare, food stamps, etc, etc, etc...:cuckoo:

Central planners? Nothing to discuss but sex & an endless stream of buzz words? How about the economy? Welfare is a minute part of US spending, properly spent it goes straight into the economy, IN THE US. Even improperly spent it also does.
 
Yes, the Founders were the radical 'liberals' of their time. However, the needs of today are not those of 1776.

Ah the "modern times" argument, which, ironically, has been used since the dawn of civilization to justify control by central planners...because only they know what's best for others...:eusa_eh:

But sure, the transition from horse to horseless carriage necessitates universal healthcare, welfare, food stamps, etc, etc, etc...:cuckoo:

Central planners? Nothing to discuss but sex & an endless stream of buzz words? How about the economy? Welfare is a minute part of US spending, properly spent it goes straight into the economy, IN THE US. Even improperly spent it also does.

Do you also think Medicare, Medicare and SS are "minute"? Why did you only mention welfare?

If you think welfare is stimulative, you're seriously mistaken. Read the broken window fallacy and get back to us. You can't take money out of the economy, run it through Washington bureaucracies, dole it out to recipients and call it stimulus. Real life doesn't work that way or we could re-distribute our way to prosperity...and the Soviet Union would be a smashing success.

More importantly, how is your retort in any way related to your modern times argument?

My what a confused little puppy you are!
 
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