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Let me get this straight, roads, highways and bridges, which are entirely subsizdized by tax payers..has a requirement that you purchase a vehicle from a private corporation, which must be fueled by a product that is also partially funded by taxpayers but sold to you by a private organization and has a requirement that you purchase insurance from a private organization...is somehow "not the same"?
Well you got me there..it's worse.
Its payed for by the tax payer in the form of the gas tax which is essentially a user fee. The more you drive the more you pay in. Also, if I dont want to drive I can choose not to and go without paying for car insurance and all the other associated government fees. However, its seems the main concern with the mandatory health insurance is Im forced to pay by simply because Im alive. I have to choice in the matter.
Crudely speaking..the gas tax is basically for maintenance of roads. Although there are several revenue streams for that. Initial cost of construction doesn't come from a "gas tax".
And if you factor in the cost of maintaining a military presence (as well as "bribes" to countries in that region) close to nations producing oil..and you've got a wealth of "forced" funding of our transportation industry. No..you don't have a choice.
So? The colonies were less American?
And this law was around after the Revolution as well. The Continetal Army was disbanded for a short time.
the colonies were british by definition, idiot.
Colony - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
jesus, did you attend elementary school?
The law was around after the Revolution was over..
And by definition..once these guys started the revolt..they were no longer "British". That's sort of what happens in Rebellions. And that's why they sent over troops.
the colonies were british by definition, idiot.
Colony - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
jesus, did you attend elementary school?
The law was around after the Revolution was over..
And by definition..once these guys started the revolt..they were no longer "British". That's sort of what happens in Rebellions. And that's why they sent over troops.
the troops were already here; that's kinda one of the reasons for the revolution.
Quartering Acts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
have someone read you a grade school history book, preferably one with lots of pictures.
Its payed for by the tax payer in the form of the gas tax which is essentially a user fee. The more you drive the more you pay in. Also, if I dont want to drive I can choose not to and go without paying for car insurance and all the other associated government fees. However, its seems the main concern with the mandatory health insurance is Im forced to pay by simply because Im alive. I have to choice in the matter.
Crudely speaking..the gas tax is basically for maintenance of roads. Although there are several revenue streams for that. Initial cost of construction doesn't come from a "gas tax".
And if you factor in the cost of maintaining a military presence (as well as "bribes" to countries in that region) close to nations producing oil..and you've got a wealth of "forced" funding of our transportation industry. No..you don't have a choice.
Well even if i didnt drive I benefit from a functioning transportation system that allows for the transportation of the stuff I buy. But still I do not HAVE TO drive a car and pay auto insurance. Youre being purposefully inane. A more appropriate comparison would be a hypothetical law that requires everyone regardless of if they own a car or not to pay for auto insurance.
The law was around after the Revolution was over..
And by definition..once these guys started the revolt..they were no longer "British". That's sort of what happens in Rebellions. And that's why they sent over troops.
the troops were already here; that's kinda one of the reasons for the revolution.
Quartering Acts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
have someone read you a grade school history book, preferably one with lots of pictures.
"They" would be the British. They..the British sent over troops. By the way, the also sent over a mercenary army, sound familiar? (That's probably another thread) Not sure why that had to be explained..but what the heck. Adding clarity is always good.
Crudely speaking..the gas tax is basically for maintenance of roads. Although there are several revenue streams for that. Initial cost of construction doesn't come from a "gas tax".
And if you factor in the cost of maintaining a military presence (as well as "bribes" to countries in that region) close to nations producing oil..and you've got a wealth of "forced" funding of our transportation industry. No..you don't have a choice.
Well even if i didnt drive I benefit from a functioning transportation system that allows for the transportation of the stuff I buy. But still I do not HAVE TO drive a car and pay auto insurance. Youre being purposefully inane. A more appropriate comparison would be a hypothetical law that requires everyone regardless of if they own a car or not to pay for auto insurance.
Your comment was about "choice". It wasn't about benefits of the Transportation system. You can't opt out of the Transportation System. You pay for it whether you want to or not.
"He's a Socialist"
"He's a communist"
"He's pal's around with terrorist"
"He's not a citizen"
"He's not like us"
"He's like King Geroge?" Hahahahahahaha
Rally cries from the party of no.
More cheap talk.
But, much thanks to Sallow who understood how to counter this OP. I have much respect for him/her.
You are obliged to buy insurance for the damage you might cause driving 2 tons of metal at high speed.
That is not the same as being obliged to buy a product you don't want or need for no other reason than to (in theory) reduce the product for someone else.
Let me get this straight, roads, highways and bridges, which are entirely subsizdized by tax payers..has a requirement that you purchase a vehicle from a private corporation, which must be fueled by a product that is also partially funded by taxpayers but sold to you by a private organization and has a requirement that you purchase insurance from a private organization...is somehow "not the same"?
Well you got me there..it's worse.
And, the law didn't survive, as Cuccinelli said. UnprecedentedSo? The colonies were less American?
And this law was around after the Revolution as well. The Continetal Army was disbanded for a short time.
the colonies were british by definition, idiot.
Colony - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
jesus, did you attend elementary school?
The law was around after the Revolution was over..
....
Worse than King George?
A rallying cry for Tea Baggers
Ma! Where did you put my three cornered hat?
Is it impossible for the leftwingers on this board to simply address the substance of what someone has said? Why do you always find it necessary to demonize the individuals rather than deal with the issues? Sheesh.. get beyond grade school please.
(Daily Caller)- Virginias fiery attorney general Ken Cuccinelli, who argued against the constitutionality of the health care law in federal court this week, has a new line: President Obama is worse than King George III, the English king in power when Americans declared independence in 1776.
Cuccinelli said Monday that at no other time in American history had a government forced citizens to purchase a product and gotten away with it, even the British King that sparked the American Revolution.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act passed in April contains a provision that requires citizens to buy health insurance. Virginias lawsuit argues that the mandate is beyond the powers of the federal government, as defined in the Constitution. (A Massachusetts state measure, championed by former governor and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, requires everyone in the state to have insurance.)
In 1774, the American colonists signed onto a document that notified King George III that Americans would boycott British goods until the so-called Intolerable Acts were lifted. Speaking like a history professor, Cuccinelli told the story of how American colonists boycotted British products in response to the Acts more than 200 years ago.
The Kings own lawyer, his solicitor general, advised him that the boycott was legal under British law and that Americans could not be forced to buy British goods, Cuccinelli said. Yet in 2010 we have a Congress and a president that have enacted a law that compels Americans for the first time in history under the guise of regulating commerce, that they must buy a private product even when the King of England and the parliament that we rebelled against acknowledged that they should not have the authority to compel us to do that when we were their subjects.
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Well even if i didnt drive I benefit from a functioning transportation system that allows for the transportation of the stuff I buy. But still I do not HAVE TO drive a car and pay auto insurance. Youre being purposefully inane. A more appropriate comparison would be a hypothetical law that requires everyone regardless of if they own a car or not to pay for auto insurance.
Your comment was about "choice". It wasn't about benefits of the Transportation system. You can't opt out of the Transportation System. You pay for it whether you want to or not.
BUT I DONT PAY FOR CAR INSURANCE IF I DONT WANT TO or drive a car if I dont want to. Thats kind of freedom of choice that making it mandatory to have heath insurance undermines, makes your example irrelevant, and is the point youve been faiing to address.
the troops were already here; that's kinda one of the reasons for the revolution.
Quartering Acts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
have someone read you a grade school history book, preferably one with lots of pictures.
"They" would be the British. They..the British sent over troops. By the way, the also sent over a mercenary army, sound familiar? (That's probably another thread) Not sure why that had to be explained..but what the heck. Adding clarity is always good.
*they* had troops here way before the revolution. *they* sent more troops after the *colonies* rebelled. i'm not sure why you're this stupid, but apparently you are.
*shrug*
(Daily Caller)- Virginia’s fiery attorney general Ken Cuccinelli, who argued against the constitutionality of the health care law in federal court this week, has a new line: President Obama is worse than King George III, the English king in power when Americans declared independence in 1776.
Cuccinelli said Monday that at no other time in American history had a government forced citizens to purchase a product and gotten away with it, even the British King that sparked the American Revolution.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act passed in April contains a provision that requires citizens to buy health insurance. Virginia’s lawsuit argues that the mandate is beyond the powers of the federal government, as defined in the Constitution. (A Massachusetts state measure, championed by former governor and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, requires everyone in the state to have insurance.)
In 1774, the American colonists signed onto a document that notified King George III that Americans would boycott British goods until the so-called “Intolerable Acts” were lifted. Speaking like a history professor, Cuccinelli told the story of how American colonists boycotted British products in response to the Acts more than 200 years ago.
“The King’s own lawyer, his solicitor general, advised him that the boycott was legal under British law and that Americans could not be forced to buy British goods,” Cuccinelli said. “Yet in 2010 we have a Congress and a president that have enacted a law that compels Americans for the first time in history under the guise of regulating commerce, that they must buy a private product even when the King of England and the parliament that we rebelled against acknowledged that they should not have the authority to compel us to do that when we were their subjects.”
Rest here>>>
(Daily Caller)- Virginias fiery attorney general Ken Cuccinelli, who argued against the constitutionality of the health care law in federal court this week, has a new line: President Obama is worse than King George III, the English king in power when Americans declared independence in 1776.
Cuccinelli said Monday that at no other time in American history had a government forced citizens to purchase a product and gotten away with it, even the British King that sparked the American Revolution.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act passed in April contains a provision that requires citizens to buy health insurance. Virginias lawsuit argues that the mandate is beyond the powers of the federal government, as defined in the Constitution. (A Massachusetts state measure, championed by former governor and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, requires everyone in the state to have insurance.)
In 1774, the American colonists signed onto a document that notified King George III that Americans would boycott British goods until the so-called Intolerable Acts were lifted. Speaking like a history professor, Cuccinelli told the story of how American colonists boycotted British products in response to the Acts more than 200 years ago.
The Kings own lawyer, his solicitor general, advised him that the boycott was legal under British law and that Americans could not be forced to buy British goods, Cuccinelli said. Yet in 2010 we have a Congress and a president that have enacted a law that compels Americans for the first time in history under the guise of regulating commerce, that they must buy a private product even when the King of England and the parliament that we rebelled against acknowledged that they should not have the authority to compel us to do that when we were their subjects.
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Check this out:
Ive found in monitoring radical anti-gay Christian extremists that theyre usually not normal, rational people who happen to dislike gay people. Usually, theyre detached from reality on several fronts. Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is apparently no exception. Cuccinelli, youll remember, decided to use his status as AG to direct Virginias colleges and universities to remove sexual orientation from their non-discrimination policies. Unfortunately for him, Virginia happens to be home to Smart Kid Schools, and smart kids and Christian fundamentalist windsockery go together like oil and water, and his efforts have been rebuffed so far.
Hes also embarrassing himself with his efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, which is the only primary healthcare source for many women.
But also? Cuccinelli seems to be a a hardcore birther, having been caught on tape having the following conversation:
Anti-gay VA Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli Not Just a Lunatic on Gay Issues (UPDATED)
Your comment was about "choice". It wasn't about benefits of the Transportation system. You can't opt out of the Transportation System. You pay for it whether you want to or not.
BUT I DONT PAY FOR CAR INSURANCE IF I DONT WANT TO or drive a car if I dont want to. Thats kind of freedom of choice that making it mandatory to have heath insurance undermines, makes your example irrelevant, and is the point youve been faiing to address.
You still pay the roads, the troops and the grants.
But grats..you don't have to pay for insurance if you don't want. Then you can't drive. And you can't use the roads.
That you already paid for..
Cuccinnelli is Virginia's equivelent of Tailgunner Joe. A pathetic demogogue full of lies and himself. The people there will tire of his idiocy soon enough.
BUT I DONT PAY FOR CAR INSURANCE IF I DONT WANT TO or drive a car if I dont want to. Thats kind of freedom of choice that making it mandatory to have heath insurance undermines, makes your example irrelevant, and is the point youve been faiing to address.
You still pay the roads, the troops and the grants.
But grats..you don't have to pay for insurance if you don't want. Then you can't drive. And you can't use the roads.
That you already paid for..
Also, our transporation system is a public good, health insurance is not. Its comparing totally different things.
