Virginia and New Jersey Bellwether Elections

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    As voters near the November 2009 elections, current polling shows a comfortable leads for both candidates for governor of those respective states.

    Republican Bob McDonnel has a 12 point lead over Democrat rival Creigh Deeds - despite recent negative press over a thesis McDonnel wrote 20 years ago that touched on such divisive social issues as homosexuality and feminism. Virginia voters appear to be shrugging over the thesis controversy, with McDonnel actually increasing his lead over Deeds since the story broke.

    In New Jersey, while the race for governor there so far remains less controversial than Virginia, it is no less important. Republican candidate Chris Christie, who is as conservative a candidate for the New Jersey governor's mansion in some time, enjoys a 6.5% lead over his Democrat opponent an current New Jersey governor and former Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine.


    If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...


    RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 Polls
     
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    In NJ it is far from bellwether

    Corzine is universally disliked. It has nothing to do with the national party
     
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    It isn't a shift back if one recognizes the last election for what it truly was, a national referendum on the TARP bail out which McCain enthusiastically endorsed while Obama seemed at best luke warm. Obama won largely because McCain seemed at the time more left than did Obama to a lot of independents and conservative Democrats.
     
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    McCain was white.

    THAT was the deciding factor of the election.

    Obama was the legacy candidate - it felt GOOD to elect the nice colored fella.

    Not sayin' all who voted for him was because of that - but a great many...
     
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    In Jersey they have a plan.

    If Corzine is way behind, switch candidates.

    Let's see, Lautenberg is busy, how about ...Bill Clinton?
     
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    Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.
     
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    You underestimate the anti-liberal backlash that is fomenting not just in the US - but around the world...
     
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    oh really Sin, that's why japan just kicked the Cons to the curb after 50 straight years in power
     
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    The LDP is hardly conservative by our more mainstream definition of it.

    You would do well to review what the newly in power Democrat Party of Japan is promising:

    -Consumer spending

    -Cut wasteful government programs and wasteful personnel

    -Reduce the power of government

    -Tax cuts

    -Pro family tax rebates

    -Reduce the corporate tax rate from 18 percent to 11 percent

    -Promote free trade deals


    Now this party also has some pro-government safety net policies as well, including increasing their version of social security and the minimum wage, and promoting "green-friendly" policies, (parts of the platform that come from there absorbing the defunct Japanese Liberal Party, but all in all, the party that just won in Japan has more in common with American conservatives than they do American liberals. People are getting confused because the LDP party was the traditional party of Japan, a huge beauracratic tax and spend party. Traditional is not conservative - just as "new" is not liberal.

    The LDP party that lost in Japan did so because of rampant corruption and a population grown weary of a stagnant economy due to over regulation and a prohibitive tax code. The short term stimulus projects that the LDP government was always implimenting never solved Japan's longer term employment issues, and contributed to the 200% of GDP national debt they are dealing with.

    The victory for the Democrat Party of Japan was more so than not - a clear victory for conservative principles, and one that the rest of the world is engaged in as well - the primary factors in the election being opposition to a huge and ineficient government, a prohibitive tax code, economic stagnation, and a dangerous national debt.

    FACTBOX: Japan opposition's election campaign platform | International | Reuters


    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/europe-votes-in-rightwing-eu-parliament

    Europe Elects Conservative Parliament


    Europe leans right as voters choose EU Parliament
    By Michael Weissenstein And Robert Wielaard, Associated Press Writer

    BRUSSELS – Europe leaned to the right Sunday as tens of millions of people voted in European Parliament elections, with conservative parties leading or favored in many countries amid a global economic crisis.

    Opinion surveys and exit polls showed right-leaning governments edging the opposition in Germany, Italy, France, Belgium and elsewhere. Conservative opposition parties were tied or ahead in Britain, Spain and some smaller countries....
     
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    just admit it asswipe the far right wing radicals got their asses kicked to the curb, end of story, just like here
     

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