Virginia AG Intervenes in GOP Ballot Dispute--4 other candidates join suit.

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Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is intervening in his state's presidential primary dispute and plans to file emergency legislation to address the inability of most Republican presidential candidates to get their name on the ballot, Fox News has learned.

Meanwhile, four GOP candidates on Saturday joined fellow candidate Rick Perry's lawsuit against the state, urging the Board of Elections to either allow them on the ballot or at least refrain from taking any action until a Jan. 13 court hearing.

Only Mitt Romney and Ron Paul qualified for the Virginia primary, a contest with 49 delegates up for grabs. Perry and the four candidates joining the lawsuit -- Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Jon Huntsman -- did not.

The failure of other candidates to qualify led to complaints that the 10,000-signature requirement is too stringent. Cuccinelli, who is a Republican, shared the concerns and plans to take them to the legislature while the candidates work through the courts.

"Recent events have underscored that our system is "deficient," he said in a statement Saturday. "Virginia owes her citizens a better process. We can do it in time for the March primary if we resolve to do so quickly."

Cuccinelli's proposal is expected to state that if the Virginia Board of Elections certifies that a candidate is receiving federal matching funds, or has qualified to receive them, that candidate will upon request be automatically added to the ballot.

Two former Democratic attorneys general are backing the move, along with a former Democratic state party chairman and a former Republican state party chairman.

Former state Attorney General Tony Troy called the Virginia process a "legal and constitutional embarrassment." Fellow former top Virginia prosecutor Steve Rosenthal said: "This is not a Democratic or Republican issue. If it takes emergency legislation, then we need to do it.

Virginia AG Intervenes In GOP Ballot Dispute As Blocked Candidates Join Suit | Fox News

The current and past attorney general's along with both party chairman have now jumped into this issue--as to why 5 out of 7 GOP Presidential candidates did not make it on Virginia's primary ballot. Now the only question is--will this issue be settled before primary ballots are to be mailed out by Jan. 21st?
 
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I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:
 
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I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:


You may want to read the article again--the DNC and GOP are under the same primary regulations in Virginia---and that's why both party chairman have commented-& both are supporting the republican state attorney general in this emergency action.-:cuckoo:--:cuckoo:
 
It seems there are unintended consequences to making hard-assed election laws.
 
I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:


You may want to read the article again--the DNC and GOP are under the same primary regulations in Virginia---and that's why both party chairman have commented-& both are supporting the republican state attorney general in this emergency action.-:cuckoo:--:cuckoo:
But only one party is acting like a whining ass crybaby.
 
I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:

Why stick with a rule when it clearly doesn't work and no one is happy about it?

The rule was found to have problems- obviously. The political system is moving to correct it.

I said when this happened this will not stand, and now it looks like it won't.
 
I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:

They are dealing with it. Lawsuits. The GOP always pays attention to what the dems have gotten away with.
 
It seems there are unintended consequences to making hard-assed election laws.


No kidding:

This concerns democrats too--as they are under the same requirements in Virginia. And I think everyone can see the implications if all 50 states behaved in the manner as Virginia--for their primaries--regarding RNC or DNC Presidential candidates. We would have every single state eliminating candidates based on decisions made by a few at the state level--who are on election boards. Other states would be trying to boot Mitt Romney and Ron Paul off of their primary ballots just for retaliation-& or to keep up with what Virginia has done---etc. etc.-

The failure of other candidates to qualify led to complaints that the 10,000-signature requirement is too stringent. Cuccinelli, who is a Republican, shared the concerns and plans to take them to the legislature while the candidates work through the courts.

"Recent events have underscored that our system is deficient," he said in a statement Saturday. "Virginia owes her citizens a better process. We can do it in time for the March primary if we resolve to do so quickly."

Cuccinelli's proposal is expected to state that if the Virginia Board of Elections certifies that a candidate is receiving federal matching funds, or has qualified to receive them, that candidate will upon request be automatically added to the ballot.

Two former Democratic attorneys general are backing the move, along with a former Democratic state party chairman and a former Republican state party chairman.

Former state Attorney General Tony Troy called the Virginia process a "legal and constitutional embarrassment." Fellow former top Virginia prosecutor Steve Rosenthal said: "This is not a Democratic or Republican issue. If it takes emergency legislation, then we need to do it.

Virginia AG Intervenes In GOP Ballot Dispute As Blocked Candidates Join Suit | Fox News

A comment of "legal & Constitutional Embarrassment" is pretty damming coming from a former Attorney general of this state.
 
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I thought rightards were all about rules? :eusa_clap: The rules were also drawn up by yours truly- the GO(B)P ;) Deal w/ it asswipes. :eusa_boohoo: :lol:


You may want to read the article again--the DNC and GOP are under the same primary regulations in Virginia---and that's why both party chairman have commented-& both are supporting the republican state attorney general in this emergency action.-:cuckoo:--:cuckoo:
But only one party is acting like a whining ass crybaby.

The state of Virginia CHANGED ballot access rules last month over a law suit in October 2011. I wouldn't be cheering too loudly--because it was never really known if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama--would have qualified for their primary in 2008--much less if any GOP candidates would have qualified.

What this state did was brew up a pot of stew in 2004 for their democrat and republican primaries--didn't enforce those laws--until they got sued into doing it in October of this year. If not for this law suit--all candidates would have qualified for their primary ballot.
 
This strikes me as whining. The law was passed for a reason, Three candidates managed to comply.


Now if it were a matter of only one candidate making it, and that was Obama, that might be reason for question. Setting up impossible election requirements for opposition candidates is something Putin is notorious for. But two Republicans made it, so that shows it is not impossible. Just shows that Gringrich and Perry need to get a life
 
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is intervening in his state's presidential primary dispute and plans to file emergency legislation to address the inability of most Republican presidential candidates to get their name on the ballot, Fox News has learned.

Meanwhile, four GOP candidates on Saturday joined fellow candidate Rick Perry's lawsuit against the state, urging the Board of Elections to either allow them on the ballot or at least refrain from taking any action until a Jan. 13 court hearing.

Only Mitt Romney and Ron Paul qualified for the Virginia primary, a contest with 49 delegates up for grabs. Perry and the four candidates joining the lawsuit -- Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Jon Huntsman -- did not.

The failure of other candidates to qualify led to complaints that the 10,000-signature requirement is too stringent. Cuccinelli, who is a Republican, shared the concerns and plans to take them to the legislature while the candidates work through the courts.

"Recent events have underscored that our system is "deficient," he said in a statement Saturday. "Virginia owes her citizens a better process. We can do it in time for the March primary if we resolve to do so quickly."

Cuccinelli's proposal is expected to state that if the Virginia Board of Elections certifies that a candidate is receiving federal matching funds, or has qualified to receive them, that candidate will upon request be automatically added to the ballot.

Two former Democratic attorneys general are backing the move, along with a former Democratic state party chairman and a former Republican state party chairman.

Former state Attorney General Tony Troy called the Virginia process a "legal and constitutional embarrassment." Fellow former top Virginia prosecutor Steve Rosenthal said: "This is not a Democratic or Republican issue. If it takes emergency legislation, then we need to do it.

Virginia AG Intervenes In GOP Ballot Dispute As Blocked Candidates Join Suit | Fox News

The current and past attorney general's along with both party chairman have now jumped into this issue--as to why 5 out of 7 GOP Presidential candidates did not make it on Virginia's primary ballot. Now the only question is--will this issue be settled before primary ballots are to be mailed out by Jan. 21st?


Wow - look - Republicans want to play by the rules, they never want to change them in the middle of the game.


Except when they need to.
 
why 5 out of 7 GOP Presidential candidates did not make it on Virginia's primary ballot.[/B]

It takes 3 attorneys general to figure out why this happened? I could have saved them so much time. The reason it happened is because some of the candidates didn't get enough signatures to be on the ballot, and some of then didn't even try to get on the ballot.

I'm not arguing for or against the law; just stating the facts.
 
why 5 out of 7 GOP Presidential candidates did not make it on Virginia's primary ballot.[/B]

It takes 3 attorneys general to figure out why this happened? I could have saved them so much time. The reason it happened is because some of the candidates didn't get enough signatures to be on the ballot, and some of then didn't even try to get on the ballot.

I'm not arguing for or against the law; just stating the facts.

And I'd add that if they think its unfair - fine - get it changed before the next election - but the rules for this election were already set by the duly elected legislature of virginia.

Seriously if you can't get 10k signatures in an above averaged population U.S. state - then you prolly aint gonna win.
 
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So candidates who didn't even attempt to get on the ballot are filing suit? That's such bullcrap.

If you dont like the law change it. But until it's changed we should be obeying it. Tough luck to those fools who didnt bother following it.
 
The state of Virginia CHANGED ballot access rules last month over a law suit in October 2011.

False, the 10,000 qualified voter requirement has been in place since 1998 when it was DECREASED from approximately 17,000 signatures.

No change was made by the State of Virginia to the law.


What this state did was brew up a pot of stew in 2004 for their democrat and republican primaries--didn't enforce those laws--until they got sued into doing it in October of this year. If not for this law suit--all candidates would have qualified for their primary ballot.


Again false, Bachman, Santorum, and Huntsman DIDN'T TURN IN ANY signatures and therefore still wouldn't be qualified.



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why 5 out of 7 GOP Presidential candidates did not make it on Virginia's primary ballot.[/B]

It takes 3 attorneys general to figure out why this happened? I could have saved them so much time. The reason it happened is because some of the candidates didn't get enough signatures to be on the ballot, and some of then didn't even try to get on the ballot.

I'm not arguing for or against the law; just stating the facts.

True enough. Those are the facts.

Although I would emphasize "valid" signatures, because two of them did submit enough signatures.

So they figured out what they are doing really doesn't work. There was a lot more people who wanted to vote for the six who were excluded than the two who made it. That's a good enough reason for a review.

Let the voters decide this issue.
 
So candidates who didn't even attempt to get on the ballot are filing suit? That's such bullcrap.

If you dont like the law change it. But until it's changed we should be obeying it. Tough luck to those fools who didnt bother following it.

That's why we have a judiciary, to challenge bad laws.

I think when you've eliminated candidates 65% of the electorate would like to have had a chance to vote for, then the law you have doesn't work.

Also, honestly, if the Weird Mormon Robot can't win a fair fight against Newt, he can't win one against Obama.
 
So candidates who didn't even attempt to get on the ballot are filing suit? That's such bullcrap.

If you dont like the law change it. But until it's changed we should be obeying it. Tough luck to those fools who didnt bother following it.

I think if you would look a little closer--you will see why it is that former and current ATTORNEY GENERALS of Virginia has referred to what has happened as a "legal--Constitutional EMBARRASSMENT"

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum announced Saturday they were joining Perry‘s lawsuit charging that Virginia’s ballot rules are unconstitutional.

The suit is challenging Virginia’s rules that determine who can appear on the primary ballot: To qualify in the state, candidates must submit 10,000 signatures from registered Virginia voters, including at least 400 from each of 11 congressional districts — a bar some say only the best-funded campaigns can meet.

In the lawsuit filed Tuesday, Perry said the statutes of Virginia law that regulate access to the ballot were “among the most onerous in the nation and severely restrict who may obtain petition signatures.”

The Virginia Republican Party announced last week that both Perry and Gingrich failed to submit the required number of signatures and therefore were disqualified from the ballot. Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum opted not to file any paperwork at all, leaving former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul the only GOP presidential candidates to qualify.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/four-gop-candidates-join-perrys-lawsuit-to-get-on-va-primary-ballot/

Ron Paul and Mitt Romney were also GOP presidential candidates in 2008--they both had large ground support in this state and had a huge head-start here. Both campaigns were well funded. Those coming into this primary had to start from scratch.

The question should be is why is it that ALL of these candidates have met other state requirements to get on their primary ballots---but failed to meet Virginia's?

Now try and imagine if all 50 states had different ONEROUS requirements & stupid adjudications similar to that of Virginia?--LOL. We would have Ron Paul and Mitt Romney getting booted off of state primaries. Presidential primaries would turn into a major cluster--f..k. Each state election board trying to out do the other--LOL.

As we know Rick Perry even though well funded with a lot of support TRIED and failed to meet Virginia's primary ballot--as did Newt Gingrich.
 
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