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Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.


Was he tripping when he got the idea of the 12 Step program from his Ouija board? (Not a joke.....the Ouija board was his source for the AA program)
 
Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.


Was he tripping when he got the idea of the 12 Step program from his Ouija board? (Not a joke.....the Ouija board was his source for the AA program)

Well, considering that the AA program was developed in 1939, and LSD didn't come out until the 60's..........in a word.........no.

Like I said, Bill Wilson after hearing the research done by Timothy Leary concerning LSD thought it would be a possible way to induce a spiritual experience on people who were active alcoholics.

If you'd like to source it, read the book "AA Comes of Age". It's towards the last chapters.

And, FWIW, AA was based originally on a group called the Washingtonians. Bill Wilson had a visit from his friend Ebbie who had joined the Washingtonians, which is where it originally came from.

Try again Swerving Blight, your information is flawed.
 
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Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.

Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.


Was he tripping when he got the idea of the 12 Step program from his Ouija board? (Not a joke.....the Ouija board was his source for the AA program)

Well, considering that the AA program was developed in 1939, and LSD didn't come out until the 60's..........in a word.........no.

Like I said, Bill Wilson after hearing the research done by Timothy Leary concerning LSD thought it would be a possible way to induce a spiritual experience on people who were active alcoholics.

If you'd like to source it, read the book "AA Comes of Age". It's towards the last chapters.

And, FWIW, AA was based originally on a group called the Washingtonians. Bill Wilson had a visit from his friend Ebbie who had joined the Washingtonians, which is where it originally came from.

Try again Swerving Blight, your information is flawed.


Wilson and Smith co-founded AA in 1935 and it was in 1939 their first book was published. In a book called "Pass It On" published in 1984 Wilson claimed he received the 12 step program directly from spirits from his use of the Ouija board. Anything else you wanna try and correct me on? You were doing so well........

Eta: wilson first used lsd in 1956
 
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Provide a REAL link with REAL facts, not some fucked up blogger that hates AA.

The link cites Wilson's books and others involved you whiny brat. If you really cared you wouldn't ignore the facts so all you're doing is trying to dance and you're failing. Really. Really. Bad.
 
Fuck off Sperm Blight.......you ain't shit, ain't got shit and are as fucked up as Neubarth.

A spiritual program for recovery

In November 1934, Wilson was visited by old drinking companion Ebby Thacher. Wilson was astounded to find that Thacher had been sober for several weeks under the guidance of the evangelical Christian Oxford Group.[18] Wilson took some interest in the Group, but shortly after Thacher's visit, he was again admitted to Towns Hospital to recover from a bout of drinking. This was his fourth and last stay at Towns hospital under Doctor Silkworth's care. It was while undergoing treatment with the The Belladonna Cure that Wilson experienced his "Hot Flash" spiritual conversion and quit drinking.[19] According to Wilson, while lying in bed depressed and despairing, he cried out, "I'll do anything! Anything at all! If there be a God, let Him show Himself!"[20] He then had the sensation of a bright light, a feeling of ecstasy, and a new serenity. He never drank again for the remainder of his life. Wilson described his experience to Dr. Silkworth, who told him, "Something has happened to you I don't understand. But you had better hang on to it".

Wilson joined the Oxford Group and tried to help other alcoholics, but only succeeded in keeping sober himself. During a failed business trip to Akron, Ohio, Wilson was tempted to drink again and decided that to remain sober he needed to help another alcoholic. He called phone numbers on a church directory and eventually secured an introduction to Dr. Bob Smith, an alcoholic Oxford Group member. Wilson explained Doctor Silkworth's theory that alcoholics suffer from a physical allergy and a mental obsession. Wilson shared that the only way he was able to stay sober was through having a spiritual experience. Dr. Bob was familiar with the tenets of the Oxford Group and upon hearing Wilson's experience, "began to pursue the spiritual remedy for his malady with a willingness that he had never before been able to muster. After a brief relapse, he sobered, never to drink again up to the moment of his death in 1950".[21] Wilson and Dr. Bob began working with other alcoholics. After that summer in Akron, Wilson returned to New York where he began having success helping alcoholics in what they called "a nameless squad of drunks" in an Oxford Group there.

In 1938, after about 100 alcoholics in Akron and New York had become sober, the fellowship decided to promote its program of recovery through the publication of a book, for which Wilson was chosen as primary author. The book was given the title Alcoholics Anonymous and included the list of suggested activities for spiritual growth known as the Twelve Steps. The movement itself took on the name of the book. Later Wilson also wrote the Twelve Traditions, a set of spiritual guidelines to ensure the survival of individual AA groups. The AA general service conference of 1955 was a landmark event for Wilson in which he turned over the leadership of the maturing organization to an elected board.
For more details on this topic, see History of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Wasn't from an ouija board asshole.
 
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Provide a REAL link with REAL facts, not some fucked up blogger that hates AA.

Fuck off Sperm Blight.......you ain't shit, ain't got shit and are as fucked up as Neubarth.

A spiritual program for recovery

In November 1934, Wilson was visited by old drinking companion Ebby Thacher. Wilson was astounded to find that Thacher had been sober for several weeks under the guidance of the evangelical Christian Oxford Group.[18] Wilson took some interest in the Group, but shortly after Thacher's visit, he was again admitted to Towns Hospital to recover from a bout of drinking. This was his fourth and last stay at Towns hospital under Doctor Silkworth's care. It was while undergoing treatment with the The Belladonna Cure that Wilson experienced his "Hot Flash" spiritual conversion and quit drinking.[19] According to Wilson, while lying in bed depressed and despairing, he cried out, "I'll do anything! Anything at all! If there be a God, let Him show Himself!"[20] He then had the sensation of a bright light, a feeling of ecstasy, and a new serenity. He never drank again for the remainder of his life. Wilson described his experience to Dr. Silkworth, who told him, "Something has happened to you I don't understand. But you had better hang on to it".

Wilson joined the Oxford Group and tried to help other alcoholics, but only succeeded in keeping sober himself. During a failed business trip to Akron, Ohio, Wilson was tempted to drink again and decided that to remain sober he needed to help another alcoholic. He called phone numbers on a church directory and eventually secured an introduction to Dr. Bob Smith, an alcoholic Oxford Group member. Wilson explained Doctor Silkworth's theory that alcoholics suffer from a physical allergy and a mental obsession. Wilson shared that the only way he was able to stay sober was through having a spiritual experience. Dr. Bob was familiar with the tenets of the Oxford Group and upon hearing Wilson's experience, "began to pursue the spiritual remedy for his malady with a willingness that he had never before been able to muster. After a brief relapse, he sobered, never to drink again up to the moment of his death in 1950".[21] Wilson and Dr. Bob began working with other alcoholics. After that summer in Akron, Wilson returned to New York where he began having success helping alcoholics in what they called "a nameless squad of drunks" in an Oxford Group there.

In 1938, after about 100 alcoholics in Akron and New York had become sober, the fellowship decided to promote its program of recovery through the publication of a book, for which Wilson was chosen as primary author. The book was given the title Alcoholics Anonymous and included the list of suggested activities for spiritual growth known as the Twelve Steps. The movement itself took on the name of the book. Later Wilson also wrote the Twelve Traditions, a set of spiritual guidelines to ensure the survival of individual AA groups. The AA general service conference of 1955 was a landmark event for Wilson in which he turned over the leadership of the maturing organization to an elected board.
For more details on this topic, see History of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Wasn't from an ouija board asshole.


I don't care if you ignore the links provided because you don't even understand the ones you post.
 
Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.
Acid was never intended (so much) as some kind o' magical-cure, for anything, as-much-as the vehicle to the source of addictive/destructive behavior.

Too-often, more-conservative people insist (whatever) substances....or, even actions....are the problem, when they've only been symptoms of (much deeper, emotional-issues).​
 
Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.


Was he tripping when he got the idea of the 12 Step program from his Ouija board? (Not a joke.....the Ouija board was his source for the AA program)
It gets better-than-that!!!!

"FRANCIS CRICK, the Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, was under the influence of LSD when he first deduced the double-helix structure of DNA nearly 50 years ago.

The abrasive and unorthodox Crick and his brilliant American co-researcher James Watson famously celebrated their eureka moment in March 1953 by running from the now legendary Cavendish Laboratory in Cambridge to the nearby Eagle pub, where they announced over pints of bitter that they had discovered the secret of life.

Crick, who died ten days ago, aged 88, later told a fellow scientist that he often used small doses of LSD then an experimental drug used in psychotherapy to boost his powers of thought. He said it was LSD, not the Eagle's warm beer, that helped him to unravel the structure of DNA, the discovery that won him the Nobel Prize.

Despite his Establishment image, Crick was a devotee of novelist Aldous Huxley, whose accounts of his experiments with LSD and another hallucinogen, mescaline, in the short stories The Doors Of Perception and Heaven And Hell became cult texts for the hippies of the Sixties and Seventies. In the late Sixties, Crick was a founder member of Soma, a legalise-cannabis group named after the drug in Huxley's novel Brave New World. He even put his name to a famous letter to The Times in 1967 calling for a reform in the drugs laws."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j40jXmXzTU]YouTube - Graham Hancock ~ DMT, LSD & DNA Discovery[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzq_sBsjbAU]YouTube - LSD - The Beyond Within [Part 1 of 9][/ame]​
 
Interestingly enough, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, dropped acid several times.

Seems that he'd heard all the world done with LSD and heard how it could induce an intense spiritual experience.

After he'd done it 3 times, he figured it was too intense for people just trying to recover, but until then, he was looking at it as a cure for alcoholism.


Was he tripping when he got the idea of the 12 Step program from his Ouija board? (Not a joke.....the Ouija board was his source for the AA program)

Well, considering that the AA program was developed in 1939, and LSD didn't come out until the 60's..........
BZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better check your Absolutes..... :rolleyes:
 
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And the activities they took up instead were much easier to police.

The war on drugs is unwinable.

It has to be treated as medical and mental health problem and not a war.
 

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