Victory Parade For Hamas!

[Roudy]

So you want lots of dead children..

What is important to acknowledge is that the various franchises of Islamic Terrorism Intl., Inc., will willingly sacrifice the life of civilians in pursuit of Jew killing.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...+as+human+shields+-+Photographic+evidence.htm

The Threat of the Human Shield Strategy Hamas Uses Extends Beyond Israel, Gaza - US News and World Report

Hamas Proud To Use Human Shields In Gaza [Video]

Hamas Sacrifices Civilians as a Military Tactic

While the Israelis will investigate allegations of misconduct by its forces in connection with actions which are contrary to IDF rules of combat and the laws of Israel you do recognize that the use of civilian shields and of children in combat is accepted and practiced among Palestinian militant groups?

There was a good article several years ago that addressed this issue and it’s as relevant today as when first published in 2009.

The Jews Face a Double Standard

Why doesn't Israel have the same right to self-defense as other nations?
By Marvin Hier

Marvin Hier: The Jews Face a Double Standard - WSJ.com

The world-wide protests against Israel's ground incursion into Gaza are so full of hatred that they leave me with the terrible feeling that these protests have little to do with the so-called disproportionality of the Israeli response to Hamas rockets, or the resulting civilian casualties.

My fear is that the rage we see in the protesters marching in the streets is far more profound and dangerous than we would like to believe. There are a great many people in the world who, even after Auschwitz, just can't bear the Jewish state having the same rights they so readily grant to other nations. These voices insist Israel must take risks they would never dare ask of any other nation-state -- risks that threaten its very survival -- because they don't believe Israel should exist in the first place.

Just look at the spate of attacks this week on Jews and Jewish institutions around the world: a car ramming into a synagogue in France; a Chabad menorah and Jewish-owned shops sprayed with swastikas in Belgium; a banner at an Australian rally demanding "clean the earth from dirty Zionists!"; demonstrators in the Netherlands chanting "Gas the Jews"; and in Florida, protestors demanding Jews "Go back to the ovens!"

How else can we explain the double-standard that is applied to the Gaza conflict, if not for a more insidious bias against the Jewish state?

At the U.N., no surprise, this double-standard is in full force. In response to Israel's attack on Hamas, the Security Council immediately pulled an all-night emergency meeting to consider yet another resolution condemning Israel. Have there been any all-night Security Council sessions held during the seven months when Hamas fired 3,000 rockets at half a million innocent civilians in southern Israel? You can be certain that during those seven months, no midnight oil was burning at the U.N. headquarters over resolutions condemning terrorist organizations like Hamas. But put condemnation of Israel on the agenda and, rain or shine, it's sure to be a full house.

Red Cross officials are all over the Gaza crisis, describing it as a full-blown humanitarian nightmare. Where were they during the seven months when tens of thousands of Israeli families could not sleep for fear of a rocket attack? Where were their trauma experts to decry that humanitarian crisis?

There have been hundreds of articles and reports written from the Erez border crossing falsely accusing Israel of blocking humanitarian supplies from reaching beleaguered Palestinians in Gaza. (In fact, over 520 truck loads of humanitarian aid have been delivered through Israeli crossings since the beginning of the Israeli counterattack.) But how many news articles, NGO reports and special U.N. commissions have investigated Hamas's policy of deliberately placing rocket launchers near schools, mosques and homes in order to use innocent Palestinians as human shields?

Many people ask why there are so few Israeli casualties in comparison with the Palestinian death toll. It's because Israel's first priority is the safety of its citizens, which is why there are shelters and warning systems in Israeli towns. If Hamas can dig tunnels, it can certainly build shelters. Instead, it prefers to use women and children as human shields while its leaders rush into hiding.

And then there are the clarion calls for a cease-fire. These words, which come so easily, have proven to be a recipe for disaster. Hamas uses the cease-fire as a time-out to rearm and smuggle even more deadly weapons so the next time, instead of hitting Sderot and Ashkelon, they can target Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

The pattern is always the same. Following a cease-fire brought on by international pressure, there will be a call for a massive infusion of funds to help Palestinians recover from the devastation of the Israeli attack. The world will respond eagerly, handing over hundreds of millions of dollars. To whom does this money go? To Hamas, the same terrorist group that brought disaster to the Palestinians in the first place.

The world seems to have forgotten that at the end of World War II, President Harry Truman initiated the Marshall Plan, investing vast sums to rebuild Germany. But he did so only with the clear understanding that the money would build a new kind of Germany -- not a Fourth Reich that would continue the policies of Adolf Hitler. Yet that is precisely what the world will be doing if we once again entrust funds to Hamas terrorists and their Iranian puppet masters.

In less than two weeks, Barack Obama will be sworn in as president of the United States. But there is no "change we can believe in" in the Middle East -- not where Israel is concerned. The double-standard continuously applied to the Jewish state proves that, for much of the world, the real lessons of World War II have yet to be learned.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=XN2fqe4oWsI]Arab Opinon - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Roudy]

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQwn4-jXNLs]Ex-muslim Wafa Sultan Debates Sheikh Omar Bakri - YouTube[/ame]

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Lmao, she doesn't speak for Arabs you moron.


Maybe .00000000012 Arabs in the world.

 

[Roudy]

That's not the point. She's right, and shes brave enough to stand up and tell the Truth, and I'm sure she speaks for more than a few Arabs. She's a heroine.

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=lYB4pG3kHIY"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=lYB4pG3kHIY[/ame]

 

[Roudy]

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=fj13r_vKBI4]Ex Muslim Wafa Sultan Attacks Paedophile Muhammad Islam - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWslbLYjzhg]Holocaust Survivor Speaks Out - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NWucpa9Nc&feature=related]Holocaust Survivor Protests Israeli Massacre in Gaza - 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ecks_why]

an objective comparison...

 

[Hollie]

So you want lots of dead children..

What is important to acknowledge is that the various franchises of Islamic Terrorism Intl., Inc., will willingly sacrifice the life of civilians in pursuit of Jew killing.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...+as+human+shields+-+Photographic+evidence.htm

The Threat of the Human Shield Strategy Hamas Uses Extends Beyond Israel, Gaza - US News and World Report

Hamas Proud To Use Human Shields In Gaza [Video]

Hamas Sacrifices Civilians as a Military Tactic

While the Israelis will investigate allegations of misconduct by its forces in connection with actions which are contrary to IDF rules of combat and the laws of Israel you do recognize that the use of civilian shields and of children in combat is accepted and practiced among Palestinian militant groups?

There was a good article several years ago that addressed this issue and it’s as relevant today as when first published in 2009.

The Jews Face a Double Standard

Why doesn't Israel have the same right to self-defense as other nations?
By Marvin Hier

Marvin Hier: The Jews Face a Double Standard - WSJ.com

The world-wide protests against Israel's ground incursion into Gaza are so full of hatred that they leave me with the terrible feeling that these protests have little to do with the so-called disproportionality of the Israeli response to Hamas rockets, or the resulting civilian casualties.

My fear is that the rage we see in the protesters marching in the streets is far more profound and dangerous than we would like to believe. There are a great many people in the world who, even after Auschwitz, just can't bear the Jewish state having the same rights they so readily grant to other nations. These voices insist Israel must take risks they would never dare ask of any other nation-state -- risks that threaten its very survival -- because they don't believe Israel should exist in the first place.

Just look at the spate of attacks this week on Jews and Jewish institutions around the world: a car ramming into a synagogue in France; a Chabad menorah and Jewish-owned shops sprayed with swastikas in Belgium; a banner at an Australian rally demanding "clean the earth from dirty Zionists!"; demonstrators in the Netherlands chanting "Gas the Jews"; and in Florida, protestors demanding Jews "Go back to the ovens!"

How else can we explain the double-standard that is applied to the Gaza conflict, if not for a more insidious bias against the Jewish state?

At the U.N., no surprise, this double-standard is in full force. In response to Israel's attack on Hamas, the Security Council immediately pulled an all-night emergency meeting to consider yet another resolution condemning Israel. Have there been any all-night Security Council sessions held during the seven months when Hamas fired 3,000 rockets at half a million innocent civilians in southern Israel? You can be certain that during those seven months, no midnight oil was burning at the U.N. headquarters over resolutions condemning terrorist organizations like Hamas. But put condemnation of Israel on the agenda and, rain or shine, it's sure to be a full house.

Red Cross officials are all over the Gaza crisis, describing it as a full-blown humanitarian nightmare. Where were they during the seven months when tens of thousands of Israeli families could not sleep for fear of a rocket attack? Where were their trauma experts to decry that humanitarian crisis?

There have been hundreds of articles and reports written from the Erez border crossing falsely accusing Israel of blocking humanitarian supplies from reaching beleaguered Palestinians in Gaza. (In fact, over 520 truck loads of humanitarian aid have been delivered through Israeli crossings since the beginning of the Israeli counterattack.) But how many news articles, NGO reports and special U.N. commissions have investigated Hamas's policy of deliberately placing rocket launchers near schools, mosques and homes in order to use innocent Palestinians as human shields?

Many people ask why there are so few Israeli casualties in comparison with the Palestinian death toll. It's because Israel's first priority is the safety of its citizens, which is why there are shelters and warning systems in Israeli towns. If Hamas can dig tunnels, it can certainly build shelters. Instead, it prefers to use women and children as human shields while its leaders rush into hiding.

And then there are the clarion calls for a cease-fire. These words, which come so easily, have proven to be a recipe for disaster. Hamas uses the cease-fire as a time-out to rearm and smuggle even more deadly weapons so the next time, instead of hitting Sderot and Ashkelon, they can target Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

The pattern is always the same. Following a cease-fire brought on by international pressure, there will be a call for a massive infusion of funds to help Palestinians recover from the devastation of the Israeli attack. The world will respond eagerly, handing over hundreds of millions of dollars. To whom does this money go? To Hamas, the same terrorist group that brought disaster to the Palestinians in the first place.

The world seems to have forgotten that at the end of World War II, President Harry Truman initiated the Marshall Plan, investing vast sums to rebuild Germany. But he did so only with the clear understanding that the money would build a new kind of Germany -- not a Fourth Reich that would continue the policies of Adolf Hitler. Yet that is precisely what the world will be doing if we once again entrust funds to Hamas terrorists and their Iranian puppet masters.

In less than two weeks, Barack Obama will be sworn in as president of the United States. But there is no "change we can believe in" in the Middle East -- not where Israel is concerned. The double-standard continuously applied to the Jewish state proves that, for much of the world, the real lessons of World War II have yet to be learned.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube[/ame]

Yours was a convenient tactic to side-step addressing the pal-arab tactic of using human shields.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What is important to acknowledge is that the various franchises of Islamic Terrorism Intl., Inc., will willingly sacrifice the life of civilians in pursuit of Jew killing.

Hamas exploitation of civilians as human shields: Photographic evidence

The Threat of the Human Shield Strategy Hamas Uses Extends Beyond Israel, Gaza - US News and World Report

Hamas Proud To Use Human Shields In Gaza [Video]

Hamas Sacrifices Civilians as a Military Tactic

While the Israelis will investigate allegations of misconduct by its forces in connection with actions which are contrary to IDF rules of combat and the laws of Israel you do recognize that the use of civilian shields and of children in combat is accepted and practiced among Palestinian militant groups?

There was a good article several years ago that addressed this issue and it’s as relevant today as when first published in 2009.

The Jews Face a Double Standard

Why doesn't Israel have the same right to self-defense as other nations?
By Marvin Hier

Marvin Hier: The Jews Face a Double Standard - WSJ.com

The world-wide protests against Israel's ground incursion into Gaza are so full of hatred that they leave me with the terrible feeling that these protests have little to do with the so-called disproportionality of the Israeli response to Hamas rockets, or the resulting civilian casualties.

My fear is that the rage we see in the protesters marching in the streets is far more profound and dangerous than we would like to believe. There are a great many people in the world who, even after Auschwitz, just can't bear the Jewish state having the same rights they so readily grant to other nations. These voices insist Israel must take risks they would never dare ask of any other nation-state -- risks that threaten its very survival -- because they don't believe Israel should exist in the first place.

Just look at the spate of attacks this week on Jews and Jewish institutions around the world: a car ramming into a synagogue in France; a Chabad menorah and Jewish-owned shops sprayed with swastikas in Belgium; a banner at an Australian rally demanding "clean the earth from dirty Zionists!"; demonstrators in the Netherlands chanting "Gas the Jews"; and in Florida, protestors demanding Jews "Go back to the ovens!"

How else can we explain the double-standard that is applied to the Gaza conflict, if not for a more insidious bias against the Jewish state?

At the U.N., no surprise, this double-standard is in full force. In response to Israel's attack on Hamas, the Security Council immediately pulled an all-night emergency meeting to consider yet another resolution condemning Israel. Have there been any all-night Security Council sessions held during the seven months when Hamas fired 3,000 rockets at half a million innocent civilians in southern Israel? You can be certain that during those seven months, no midnight oil was burning at the U.N. headquarters over resolutions condemning terrorist organizations like Hamas. But put condemnation of Israel on the agenda and, rain or shine, it's sure to be a full house.

Red Cross officials are all over the Gaza crisis, describing it as a full-blown humanitarian nightmare. Where were they during the seven months when tens of thousands of Israeli families could not sleep for fear of a rocket attack? Where were their trauma experts to decry that humanitarian crisis?

There have been hundreds of articles and reports written from the Erez border crossing falsely accusing Israel of blocking humanitarian supplies from reaching beleaguered Palestinians in Gaza. (In fact, over 520 truck loads of humanitarian aid have been delivered through Israeli crossings since the beginning of the Israeli counterattack.) But how many news articles, NGO reports and special U.N. commissions have investigated Hamas's policy of deliberately placing rocket launchers near schools, mosques and homes in order to use innocent Palestinians as human shields?

Many people ask why there are so few Israeli casualties in comparison with the Palestinian death toll. It's because Israel's first priority is the safety of its citizens, which is why there are shelters and warning systems in Israeli towns. If Hamas can dig tunnels, it can certainly build shelters. Instead, it prefers to use women and children as human shields while its leaders rush into hiding.

And then there are the clarion calls for a cease-fire. These words, which come so easily, have proven to be a recipe for disaster. Hamas uses the cease-fire as a time-out to rearm and smuggle even more deadly weapons so the next time, instead of hitting Sderot and Ashkelon, they can target Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

The pattern is always the same. Following a cease-fire brought on by international pressure, there will be a call for a massive infusion of funds to help Palestinians recover from the devastation of the Israeli attack. The world will respond eagerly, handing over hundreds of millions of dollars. To whom does this money go? To Hamas, the same terrorist group that brought disaster to the Palestinians in the first place.

The world seems to have forgotten that at the end of World War II, President Harry Truman initiated the Marshall Plan, investing vast sums to rebuild Germany. But he did so only with the clear understanding that the money would build a new kind of Germany -- not a Fourth Reich that would continue the policies of Adolf Hitler. Yet that is precisely what the world will be doing if we once again entrust funds to Hamas terrorists and their Iranian puppet masters.

In less than two weeks, Barack Obama will be sworn in as president of the United States. But there is no "change we can believe in" in the Middle East -- not where Israel is concerned. The double-standard continuously applied to the Jewish state proves that, for much of the world, the real lessons of World War II have yet to be learned.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube[/ame]

Yours was a convenient tactic to side-step addressing the pal-arab tactic of using human shields.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to support that allegation.

Israel sang that same song in Lebanon.

 

[Jos]

 

[Hollie]

Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube

Yours was a convenient tactic to side-step addressing the pal-arab tactic of using human shields.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to support that allegation.

Israel sang that same song in Lebanon.

You may wish to broaden your horizons, tinmeister.


Human Shields


Human Shields Perhaps the most critical point of contention in the Goldstone Report concerns Hamas use of civilians as human shields (and more broadly, the ways in which Hamas and other militant groups deliberately hid among their own civilian population). This is a crucial issue because if one ignores and dismisses such evidence, then Israel's firing at places where there were civilians can seem like "targeting civilians" -- one of the Goldstone Reports key findings -- and yet, if one includes Hamas' behavior in the calculations, then the judgment might be the opposite: given Hamas' behavior, the IDF did everything it could to avoid civilians, and Hamas is guilty not only of targeting Israeli civilians, but its own. Here we bring to bear the evidence -- systematically excluded from its hearings and reasoning -- by the Goldstone Mission.

Apologists for Islamic terrorism sing in the same chorus as you do.

 

[jillian]

Apparently the honor of getting your butt kicked by the Israelis is a victory in itself! Have you ever encountered such depravity and shallowness? Ha ha ha!

they're the black knight of the international community. what do you expect?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw]Monty Python- The Black Knight Fight - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Apparently none of you read exactly what the terms were. Perhaps you should turn off the cable bobbleheads.

Basically, this is about all I can find.

Under the truce, which will be guaranteed by Egypt on the Palestinian side, Israel agreed to "stop all hostilities in the Gaza Strip by land, sea and air including incursions and targeting of individuals". In exchange it committed "all Palestinian factions" to "stop all hostilities from the Gaza Strip against Israel including rocket attacks and all attacks along the border".

Israeli-Gaza ceasefire holds | World news | guardian.co.uk

Even at that, Israel killed one and injured nine shooting over the fence and Israel is still patrolling Gaza's territorial waters.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yours was a convenient tactic to side-step addressing the pal-arab tactic of using human shields.

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to support that allegation.

Israel sang that same song in Lebanon.

You may wish to broaden your horizons, tinmeister.


Human Shields


Human Shields Perhaps the most critical point of contention in the Goldstone Report concerns Hamas use of civilians as human shields (and more broadly, the ways in which Hamas and other militant groups deliberately hid among their own civilian population). This is a crucial issue because if one ignores and dismisses such evidence, then Israel's firing at places where there were civilians can seem like "targeting civilians" -- one of the Goldstone Reports key findings -- and yet, if one includes Hamas' behavior in the calculations, then the judgment might be the opposite: given Hamas' behavior, the IDF did everything it could to avoid civilians, and Hamas is guilty not only of targeting Israeli civilians, but its own. Here we bring to bear the evidence -- systematically excluded from its hearings and reasoning -- by the Goldstone Mission.

Apologists for Islamic terrorism sing in the same chorus as you do.

So you post a link to an Israel propaganda blog.

 

[Jos]

Human Shields


Human Shields Perhaps the most critical point of contention in the Goldstone Report concerns Hamas use of civilians as human shields (and more broadly, the ways in which Hamas and other militant groups deliberately hid among their own civilian population). This is a crucial issue because if one ignores and dismisses such evidence, then Israel's firing at places where there were civilians can seem like "targeting civilians" -- one of the Goldstone Reports key findings -- and yet, if one includes Hamas' behavior in the calculations, then the judgment might be the opposite: given Hamas' behavior, the IDF did everything it could to avoid civilians, and Hamas is guilty not only of targeting Israeli civilians, but its own. Here we bring to bear the evidence -- systematically excluded from its hearings and reasoning -- by the Goldstone Mission.

Apologists for Islamic terrorism sing in the same chorus as you do.

The owner of that site goldstonereport.org is richard landes,

Landes is a strong supporter of the state of Israel, and a vigorous critic of what he considers anti-Israel propaganda

Richard Landes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hollie]

The Goldstone Report found no evidence to support that allegation.

Israel sang that same song in Lebanon.

You may wish to broaden your horizons, tinmeister.


Human Shields


Human Shields Perhaps the most critical point of contention in the Goldstone Report concerns Hamas use of civilians as human shields (and more broadly, the ways in which Hamas and other militant groups deliberately hid among their own civilian population). This is a crucial issue because if one ignores and dismisses such evidence, then Israel's firing at places where there were civilians can seem like "targeting civilians" -- one of the Goldstone Reports key findings -- and yet, if one includes Hamas' behavior in the calculations, then the judgment might be the opposite: given Hamas' behavior, the IDF did everything it could to avoid civilians, and Hamas is guilty not only of targeting Israeli civilians, but its own. Here we bring to bear the evidence -- systematically excluded from its hearings and reasoning -- by the Goldstone Mission.

Apologists for Islamic terrorism sing in the same chorus as you do.

So you post a link to an Israel propaganda blog.

Shall I take this to mean that your rabid Jew-hating paranoia will not allow you to see beyond your islamism terrorist hugging proclivities?

Do we assume you will reject the photographic evidence and eye witness reports of various Islamic terrorist groups firing from residential areas?

 

[eots]

Apparently the honor of getting your butt kicked by the Israelis is a victory in itself! Have you ever encountered such depravity and shallowness? Ha ha ha!

they're the black knight of the international community. what do you expect?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw]Monty Python- The Black Knight Fight - YouTube[/ame]

or David to The Zionist Goliath

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txaOsy5u1nI]Everlast Stone In My Hand FREE PALESTINE - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

You may wish to broaden your horizons, tinmeister.


Human Shields


Human Shields Perhaps the most critical point of contention in the Goldstone Report concerns Hamas use of civilians as human shields (and more broadly, the ways in which Hamas and other militant groups deliberately hid among their own civilian population). This is a crucial issue because if one ignores and dismisses such evidence, then Israel's firing at places where there were civilians can seem like "targeting civilians" -- one of the Goldstone Reports key findings -- and yet, if one includes Hamas' behavior in the calculations, then the judgment might be the opposite: given Hamas' behavior, the IDF did everything it could to avoid civilians, and Hamas is guilty not only of targeting Israeli civilians, but its own. Here we bring to bear the evidence -- systematically excluded from its hearings and reasoning -- by the Goldstone Mission.

Apologists for Islamic terrorism sing in the same chorus as you do.

So you post a link to an Israel propaganda blog.

Shall I take this to mean that your rabid Jew-hating paranoia will not allow you to see beyond your islamism terrorist hugging proclivities?

Do we assume you will reject the photographic evidence and eye witness reports of various Islamic terrorist groups firing from residential areas?

You can take it any way you want.

I go by what the report says not what some propaganda blog says it says.

 

[Hollie]

Apparently none of you read exactly what the terms were. Perhaps you should turn off the cable bobbleheads.

Basically, this is about all I can find.

Under the truce, which will be guaranteed by Egypt on the Palestinian side, Israel agreed to "stop all hostilities in the Gaza Strip by land, sea and air including incursions and targeting of individuals". In exchange it committed "all Palestinian factions" to "stop all hostilities from the Gaza Strip against Israel including rocket attacks and all attacks along the border".

Israeli-Gaza ceasefire holds | World news | guardian.co.uk

Even at that, Israel killed one and injured nine shooting over the fence and Israel is still patrolling Gaza's territorial waters.

Gee whiz, tinny. From the article you posted:
"Several rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel shortly after the ceasefire came into force late on Wednesday, according to Israeli police, but there were no casualties and no sign of an Israeli response."

This seems to reflect a pattern of dishonest, sleazy behavior from the rabid Jew haters who are not concerned with truth or accuracy but only in presenting a view slanted toward Islamic terrorists.