Very warm year so far

[Old Rocks]

Looks like 2010 has the potential to exceed 1998. So much for global cooling.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record

NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record
Also Warmest January-April
May 17, 2010

The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for both April and for the period from January-April, according to NOAA. Additionally, last month’s average ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for any April, and the global land surface temperature was the third warmest on record.

The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services that NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions.

 

[westwall]

Looks like 2010 has the potential to exceed 1998. So much for global cooling.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record

NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record
Also Warmest January-April
May 17, 2010

The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for both April and for the period from January-April, according to NOAA. Additionally, last month’s average ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for any April, and the global land surface temperature was the third warmest on record.

The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services that NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions.

They're going to have a hard time fooling peple with this crap. We know that they have dropped 80% of the weather stations (all from the rural areas) so this data is meaningless.
A few months ago I was in Albuquerque NM and there was a major storm. The day after the city was dry but 15 miles out of town in all directions was ice...lots of it. It is to date the best example of the urban island effect I have ever seen.


Try again old fraud...this poo poo won't fly anymore....there are too many people who know what NOAA is doing.

 

[gslack]

Looks like 2010 has the potential to exceed 1998. So much for global cooling.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record

NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record
Also Warmest January-April
May 17, 2010

The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for both April and for the period from January-April, according to NOAA. Additionally, last month’s average ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for any April, and the global land surface temperature was the third warmest on record.

The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services that NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions.

LOL, You ready oldsocks? HAHHAHAHAA!

The entire thing reeks... know why?

1. Just as westwall mentioned they cut 80% of their rural stations and instead doing the ethical and correct/honest thing. They keep right on going with what they got knowing full and well they will get "record" highs without the rural stations..

2. They use subtle little wordplay making sure we understand the warming areas. But then downplay the fact China experienced record low temps.. As I recall china is pretty dam big... Also they mention the snow coverage being the 4th lowest since.... 1967? WTF? THey have to pull this crap out of their ass now or what... What in the hell does that mean?

3. The entire thing measures anomalies... Why? well because anomalies allow for greater ability to make dubious claims.. It harder to prove them wrong without the data from the long time frame they use to chart the anomalies. Data which they keep and gather. SO if they are the keepers and the gatherers very few of us average joes can see if they are full of shit outright. We can get the data but we have to pay them and then wait for them to send it etc.... Most of us won't and they know this....

4. And the most telling thing in the whole line of BS..... You really should learn to read carefully what you buy into.... THis is embarrassing now.. Dude I really am embarrassed for you now...

Okay you follow this thing back to its source using the links on the site you linked to and eventually get here State of the Climate | Global Analysis | April 2010

And then we read the following in very small print...

Please Note: The data presented in this report are preliminary. Ranks and anomalies may change as more complete data are received and processed. Effective with the July 2009 State of the Climate Report, NCDC transitioned to the new version (version 3b) of the extended reconstructed sea surface temperature (ERSST) dataset. ERSST.v3b is an improved extended SST reconstruction over version 2. For more information about the differences between ERSST.v3b and ERSST.v2 and to access the most current data, please visit NCDC's Global Surface Temperature Anomalies page.

So.... its a preliminary report... meaning not actually for sure right yet.. So why do they release it? Well because its the scam and they have to sell this... And whats the second part up there say? they are using a new dataset? Why? well it turns out they felt the old dataset gave too many low temps....Well how can they use a new dataset if they are comparing it to old temps to get the anomalies? I mean if the new data set is an improved version meaning something wrong with the old set, doesn't that make the old temps suspect?

Nice work on this oldsocks..... Really. You're lack of reading and lack of comprehension is a reliable addition to our side thank you very much...

 

[Si modo]

Still freezing my ass off...May 19th.

 

[konradv]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

 

[JWBooth]

Very warm year so far

Sure hope so, and with any luck, lots of extra carbon in the atmosphere, my crops should do especially well.

 

[Si modo]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

You are a pious man.

 

[konradv]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

You are a pious man.

Meaning?

 

[del]

Looks like 2010 has the potential to exceed 1998. So much for global cooling.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record

NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record
Also Warmest January-April
May 17, 2010

The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for both April and for the period from January-April, according to NOAA. Additionally, last month’s average ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for any April, and the global land surface temperature was the third warmest on record.

The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services that NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions.

wow! 130 years of records! that's more 0.00000002% of the life of the planet!

why, that almost meets the threshold for, for, um, well it's almost meaningful enough to, uh,...what i mean to say is....um....

you're shittin me right?

pathetic

 

[gslack]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

Thats good because I took the info from the NOAA link oldssocks provided.... Reading....Its a good thing...

 

[konradv]

wow! 130 years of records! that's more 0.00000002% of the life of the planet!
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Well, this is the time we're living in, so that's the time we're concerned about. What relevance does the rest of the time have anyway? You can't take the past as a template for the future, if underlying conditions have changed, like humans dumping nearly 80 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, DAILY!!! List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Si modo]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

You are a pious man.

Meaning?

Pious, faithful. Faith = 1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions

2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

(Merriam-Webster)

 

[Si modo]

Looks like 2010 has the potential to exceed 1998. So much for global cooling.

NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record

NOAA: Warmest April Global Temperature on Record
Also Warmest January-April
May 17, 2010

The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for both April and for the period from January-April, according to NOAA. Additionally, last month’s average ocean surface temperature was the warmest on record for any April, and the global land surface temperature was the third warmest on record.

The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services that NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions.

wow! 130 years of records! that's more 0.00000002% of the life of the planet!

why, that almost meets the threshold for, for, um, well it's almost meaningful enough to, uh,...what i mean to say is....um....

you're shittin me right?

pathetic

And, 130 years of records taken with inconsistent methodology of measurement.

Unfortunately, I don't think he is shitting you.

Sad, huh?

 

[JWBooth]

I'll take the NOAA's word over posters who are just making poltical statements.

You are a pious man.

In the Great Church of the Royal Scam, the privy counsel is the Weather Bureaucrat.

The Weather Bureaucrat receives his tithe from the annual budget, the greater the perception of threat to all that is known the greater the annual tithe.

 

[Old Rocks]

Poor ol' Si. Cannot answer with reality, so does so with yap-yap.

At least ol' Suckee...... managed to come up with a lame statement concerning the fact that the figures are preliminery, and may be adjusted up or down by a fraction.

 

[konradv]

You are a pious man.

Meaning?

Pious, faithful. Faith = 1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions

2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

(Merriam-Webster)

Still don't get your point. I base my opinions on science, not faith. How about you tell us what you think and don't try to be a mind reader? You're way off base and what I would call intellectually lazy. It's easier to imply some sort of mental deficiency, piety???, than to honestly discuss issues.

 

[JWBooth]

wow! 130 years of records! that's more 0.00000002% of the life of the planet!
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Well, this is the time we're living in, so that's the time we're concerned about. What relevance does the rest of the time have anyway? You can't take the past as a template for the future, if underlying conditions have changed, like humans dumping nearly 80 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, DAILY!!! List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

80 million tons

Is that an hourly estimate, weekly, or like since the Iron age?
Roughly what is that compared to the output of the Icelandic volcanoes?

 

[Old Rocks]

No facts, no figures, just continued yap-yap in the face of the evidence that scientists from all over the world are presenting. Pathetic little political partisans venturing into a scientific discussion.

 

[Old Rocks]

wow! 130 years of records! that's more 0.00000002% of the life of the planet!
-------------------------

Well, this is the time we're living in, so that's the time we're concerned about. What relevance does the rest of the time have anyway? You can't take the past as a template for the future, if underlying conditions have changed, like humans dumping nearly 80 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, DAILY!!! List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

80 million tons

Is that an hourly estimate, weekly, or like since the Iron age?
Roughly what is that compared to the output of the Icelandic volcanoes?

OK, dimbulb. By the USGS, we put out over 130 times as much CO2 as all the volcanos in the world combined. In addition to CH4, and various really effective GHGs in the form of industrial gases.

Volcanic Gases and Their Effects

Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.
Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1991). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 27 billion tonnes per year (30 billion tons) [ ( Marland, et al., 2006) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2, through 2003.]. Human activities release more than 130 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of more than 8,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 3.3 million tonnes/year)! (Gerlach et. al., 2002)

See what you can find when you actually research a subject instead of just blindly to the political partisan yap-yap thing.

 

[gslack]

Poor ol' Si. Cannot answer with reality, so does so with yap-yap.

At least ol' Suckee...... managed to come up with a lame statement concerning the fact that the figures are preliminery, and may be adjusted up or down by a fraction.

yeah the fact there was a lot more to it than just that shows how full of shit your BS is....

Care to explain why they released data that wasn't final? of course not that would mean selling out your faith....