Venezuela's Green, Renewable, Power, Huge, failure

[bripat9643]

People that point to failures as a reason to stop typically are the biggest failures. Winners keep improving the process even after they make it work.

Go "win" with your own money, chump.

 

[elektra]

Since 2009, a combination of factors converged to produce a wave of coal plant retirement announcements by plant operators. These factors included:

• The continued aging of the coal fleet, in which the median generating station was built in January 1966. (See Table 1 below) Since their efficiency is lower than newer plants, older plants are typically run less often and have poorer economics.[1]
• New and proposed EPA regulations, including the proposed Clean Air Transport Rule, the proposed Coal Combustion Residuals rule, the proposed Tailoring Rule (covering greenhouse gas emissions), the Ozone NAAQS (National Ambient Air Quality Standards), the forthcoming National Emission Standard for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAPs), and cooling water regulations under section 316(b) of the Clean Water Act. [2][3][4]
• Low prices of power from natural gas plants.

Coal plant retirements have been the subject of a number of multiple studies:

Coal plant retirements - SourceWatch

And as the coal fired generators close down, we add more and more wind and solar, and are starting to add geothermal.

So? Obama forces perfectly fine Coal Plants to close, that is political, they are replaced with Natural Gas or expanding the output of existing Coal Plants.

So the question is still valid, how come we are building huge, hydrocarbon power plants, if Wind or Solar works?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

Obama made good on his promise to bankrupt coal companies

 

[yellowdognewsllc]

Ideas on energy investment: Altruism or the Market :http://yellowdognews.com/AltruismortheMarket.html

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

Obama made good on his promise to bankrupt coal companies

Stupid ass, the coal companies were bankrupted by being unable to first compete with natural gas, and now by not being able to compete with wind and solar.

Nearly half of US coal is produced by companies that have declared bankruptcy — and Trump won’t fix that

But while air quality rules and renewable energy subsidies have created incentives to move away from coal, the irony is that the real opponent in the "war" is the free market.

Brookings Institution

Several factors, all of which are mostly out of lawmakers’ control, have had major impacts on the coal business over the last decade. First, thanks to hydraulic fracturing (fracking) technology, natural gas has become a more desirable fuel because it burns cleaner and is cheaper than coal. In 2000, half of the US’ electricity came from coal-powered plants and about 15% came from natural gas, according to a Brookings Institution analysis; today coal and gas each make up about a third of the country's electricity generation.

Additionally, prices of renewables have fallen dramatically — the cost of building a solar photovoltaic plant has fallen by about 80 percent since 2009, making it more financially feasible for states to invest in solar and wind power. Third, as buildings and other facilities have become more energy-efficient and begun gathering power from rooftop solar panels, electricity sales in the US have started to flatten. Plus, a slowing of the Chinese economy has caused exports to go down, and automation has replaced jobs in mines and coal production facilities.

 

[bripat9643]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

Obama made good on his promise to bankrupt coal companies

Stupid ass, the coal companies were bankrupted by being unable to first compete with natural gas, and now by not being able to compete with wind and solar.

Nearly half of US coal is produced by companies that have declared bankruptcy — and Trump won’t fix that

But while air quality rules and renewable energy subsidies have created incentives to move away from coal, the irony is that the real opponent in the "war" is the free market.

Brookings Institution

Several factors, all of which are mostly out of lawmakers’ control, have had major impacts on the coal business over the last decade. First, thanks to hydraulic fracturing (fracking) technology, natural gas has become a more desirable fuel because it burns cleaner and is cheaper than coal. In 2000, half of the US’ electricity came from coal-powered plants and about 15% came from natural gas, according to a Brookings Institution analysis; today coal and gas each make up about a third of the country's electricity generation.

Additionally, prices of renewables have fallen dramatically — the cost of building a solar photovoltaic plant has fallen by about 80 percent since 2009, making it more financially feasible for states to invest in solar and wind power. Third, as buildings and other facilities have become more energy-efficient and begun gathering power from rooftop solar panels, electricity sales in the US have started to flatten. Plus, a slowing of the Chinese economy has caused exports to go down, and automation has replaced jobs in mines and coal production facilities.

If that were true, then why did Obama deliberately wage a war designed to bankrupt them?

 

[Old Rocks]

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So? Obama forces perfectly fine Coal Plants to close, that is political, they are replaced with Natural Gas or expanding the output of existing Coal Plants.

So the question is still valid, how come we are building huge, hydrocarbon power plants, if Wind or Solar works?[/QUOTE]


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[CrusaderFrank]

Well, karma is served, Peabody headed for chapter 11, and history. And the renewables will replace the coal fired cancers on our nation with clean energy.

Obama made good on his promise to bankrupt coal companies

Stupid ass, the coal companies were bankrupted by being unable to first compete with natural gas, and now by not being able to compete with wind and solar.

Nearly half of US coal is produced by companies that have declared bankruptcy — and Trump won’t fix that

But while air quality rules and renewable energy subsidies have created incentives to move away from coal, the irony is that the real opponent in the "war" is the free market.

Brookings Institution

Several factors, all of which are mostly out of lawmakers’ control, have had major impacts on the coal business over the last decade. First, thanks to hydraulic fracturing (fracking) technology, natural gas has become a more desirable fuel because it burns cleaner and is cheaper than coal. In 2000, half of the US’ electricity came from coal-powered plants and about 15% came from natural gas, according to a Brookings Institution analysis; today coal and gas each make up about a third of the country's electricity generation.

Additionally, prices of renewables have fallen dramatically — the cost of building a solar photovoltaic plant has fallen by about 80 percent since 2009, making it more financially feasible for states to invest in solar and wind power. Third, as buildings and other facilities have become more energy-efficient and begun gathering power from rooftop solar panels, electricity sales in the US have started to flatten. Plus, a slowing of the Chinese economy has caused exports to go down, and automation has replaced jobs in mines and coal production facilities.

Wind and solar are heavily subsidized