Venezuelan donkeys disappearing as residents struggle to survive

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It's no coincidence that you extremists can ignore the suffering and pain in Venezuela. Probably because you approve.

Lol I so love these kinds of posts. So as a rebuke to me calling out the straw man argument of "Venezuela is going down the toilet, so that means Social Democracy is a failure" You give me the straw man argument, " So you defend Social Democracy, so therefor you don't care about what's happening in Venezuela." You guys are nothing if not consistent, dishonest political hacks but consistent nonetheless.

Go to Venezuela and tell the people there that their condition is a "straw man argument" why dontcha ?

While on you're touring the socialist/Communist world, do the same in Cuba, Turkey and China.

Your refusal to see REALITY is the real consistency.[/QUOTE]
Their condition is by definition no argument, it is a condition. Your interpretation of that condition and your interpretation of my analysis of it sure as hell is. Can you show me how you make the leap of me saying that Venezuela's economic crisis is not primarily a result of their social policies to me in any way is not caring about what is happening? If you can't make that leap it is a STRAW MAN .

 

[mudwhistle]

They wouldn't be laughing at us if we pulled completely out and left them to deal with their own defense.

Yep....Europe thinks the premise is a joke.....but then reality will kick em in the nuts.

This is the problem with Socialist countries.
They need other people's money to survive.

Europe does not need our military bases. I'm sure nothing will change your mind, though.

Nope....they don't need our bases......they just need our money.

The vast majority of our aid goes to war town countries in the Middle East and Africa. Europe does not need us.

Maybe you could convince me if you provided links to this.....otherwise....I don't believe you.

We did cut back during Desert Storm, but we still pay most of NATO's budget.

BTW, have you been on another planet somewhere, because this was discussed at length before the libbys started this scream-fest over Helsinki.

I don't consider the NATO budget as aid Europe needs. We want our military all over the planet. It's our desire to have a bunch of our shit in Europe, not theirs. Of course we're going to pay most of the bill for NATO.

United States foreign aid - Wikipedia

Here is a list of countries we provide aid to.

Foreign aid is different from military aid.
You're trying to change the subject.

But yes, we give foreign aid to our enemies as well as our friends.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Their condition is by definition no argument, it is a condition. Your interpretation of that condition and your interpretation of my analysis of it sure as hell is. Can you show me how you make the leap of me saying that Venezuela's economic crisis is not primarily a result of their social policies to me in any way is not caring about what is happening? If you can't make that leap it is a STRAW MAN .

Show of hands......is this even worth pursuing? I mean, I could....but I don't see the point. Not copping out, I just truly don't see where this will lead anywhere constructive or worthwhile. Sry.

You're free to consider it a straw man if you like.

 

[depotoo]

Heard the trees have been stripped bare...

Donkey herds are dwindling as hungry Venezuelans slaughter them for food

Ironic they are eating the symbol for Democrats.

Socialism is a failure, whether you call it Democratic Socialism or not.

Nice analogy. Of course the chances you know what happened in Venezuela that created this situation rank somewhere from slim to none. You only know it's a country that had socialism and now it's doing bad.
I will remind you, not that it matters, that the Great Depression started in a Capitalist country, THE biggest Capitalist country and created starvation GLOBALLY and was the catalyst for the Rise of the NAZI's (not it's creation). The 2008 depression was equally felt GLOBALLY made several countries go bankrupt and again was a direct result of Capitalism. So if you think Capitalism is so much superior why is it that Venezuela going down the tube is a failure of Socialism but when the world goes down the tube Capitalism is not to blame?

Why did it happen?

UNSUSTAINABLE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS.

It’s not tough to determine.

Yes it is actually. Plenty of other countries have more and better social programs. Norway was already touched on but there are plenty others. I live in one of those. Venezuela has plenty of natural riches. They are a bigger oil exporter then Norway. So what happened? Don't cheat and look it up, I bet you don't know.

Can you buy toilet paper in Venezuela now? Or do you wipe your ass with donkey skin?

 

[depotoo]

Terrorism

Norway seems to be doing fine. No debt, no homelessness and the happiest country on Earth. Damn socialism...

Yeah.....thank God America still has money to defend them.

People from Europe would laugh in your face for suggesting they need us to defend them from...Putin? China? Get real.

 

[eagle1462010]

They went full retard socialist........ending in suppression of free speech..............a basic dictatorship...........and rigged elections.........

Kinda like how it always ends when people choose this path..............IT'S ALL FREE..........DADDY GOV'T.

 

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Their condition is by definition no argument, it is a condition. Your interpretation of that condition and your interpretation of my analysis of it sure as hell is. Can you show me how you make the leap of me saying that Venezuela's economic crisis is not primarily a result of their social policies to me in any way is not caring about what is happening? If you can't make that leap it is a STRAW MAN .

Show of hands......is this even worth pursuing? I mean, I could....but I don't see the point. Not copping out, I just truly don't see where this will lead anywhere constructive or worthwhile. Sry.

You're free to consider it a straw man if you like.

So when I ask you very politely to give me a reasoning for an assertion you make, answering me is not "not constructive or worthwhile?" I see... I'm afraid you would have to come out with something better if you don't want me to conclude you aren't copping out. I'll ask again. How do you get from defense of Social Democracy, to, "you don't care about what's happening in Venezuela?" Honest question.

 

[HenryBHough]

Venezuela short on donkeys?

Quick, President Trump, ship 'em some Democrat jackasses!

 

[mudwhistle]

Heard the trees have been stripped bare...

Donkey herds are dwindling as hungry Venezuelans slaughter them for food

Ironic they are eating the symbol for Democrats.

Socialism is a failure, whether you call it Democratic Socialism or not.

Nice analogy. Of course the chances you know what happened in Venezuela that created this situation rank somewhere from slim to none. You only know it's a country that had socialism and now it's doing bad.
I will remind you, not that it matters, that the Great Depression started in a Capitalist country, THE biggest Capitalist country and created starvation GLOBALLY and was the catalyst for the Rise of the NAZI's (not it's creation). The 2008 depression was equally felt GLOBALLY made several countries go bankrupt and again was a direct result of Capitalism. So if you think Capitalism is so much superior why is it that Venezuela going down the tube is a failure of Socialism but when the world goes down the tube Capitalism is not to blame?

Why did it happen?

UNSUSTAINABLE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS.

It’s not tough to determine.

Yes it is actually. Plenty of other countries have more and better social programs. Norway was already touched on but there are plenty others. I live in one of those. Venezuela has plenty of natural riches. They are a bigger oil exporter then Norway. So what happened? Don't cheat and look it up, I bet you don't know.

Can you buy toilet paper in Venezuela now? Or do you wipe your ass with donkey skin?

The quickest way to convert from Socialism to Communism is starve the population.

Then the commies come to save the day.....after a couple of million people have died.

 

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Their condition is by definition no argument, it is a condition. Your interpretation of that condition and your interpretation of my analysis of it sure as hell is. Can you show me how you make the leap of me saying that Venezuela's economic crisis is not primarily a result of their social policies to me in any way is not caring about what is happening? If you can't make that leap it is a STRAW MAN .

Show of hands......is this even worth pursuing? I mean, I could....but I don't see the point. Not copping out, I just truly don't see where this will lead anywhere constructive or worthwhile. Sry.

You're free to consider it a straw man if you like.

So when I ask you very politely to give me a reasoning for an assertion you make, answering me is not "not constructive or worthwhile?" I see... I'm afraid you would have to come out with something better if you don't want me to conclude you aren't copping out. I'll ask again. How do you get from defense of Social Democracy, to, "you don't care about what's happening in Venezuela?" Honest question.

You know, you really are a basic human unit. You rather admit to being a coward then to being wrong.