Vatican Cardinal Says We Should Listen To Science

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    Thursday, November 03, 2005


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174489,00.html

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    I like the general sentiment. But I'm not a Catholic, so I don't really care.
     
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    I'm not sure I like your attitude.
     
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    Yes RWA and you are just a right ray of sunshine, arent you?

    As for the Cardinal, good general statement, for both the religious and the scientific
     
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    :clap: There needs to be more people like this guy on both sides of this issue.
     
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    I never really understood why this is such a hot subject with people. I believe God created life as well as the laws of physics. How he did it exactly is something we will probably never know. Who is to say God didn't create man through evolution?
     
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    I have admired John Paul II from the start, and I will admire him to the end.
    He was a great man of peace.

    I do think he comitted a historical inaccuracy when he said the imbroglio
    with Galilieo was the result of "mutual distrust" between Galileo and the Church- the truth is that the Church was the only distrusting party.

    Didn't he also say the Church erred by straying onto grounds it had no reason to pronounce ukases in, by virtue of its lack of knowledge?


    On the other hand,

    More recently, science has given religion a gift:


    It seems possible the Universe is a one-shot deal:
    It may have had an origin with no past; it may have been created.
    ( yes, it may also have created itself)

    Also, science has made no headway, in fact, has made no contribution,
    to the questions of the rise of life and intelligence and emotions.

    The Roman Catholic Church made a monumental step forward when it renounced St. Augustine, in part, for his more merciful rival, Pelagius:
    Baptism is not needed for Salvation.
     
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    Umm... Jesus?

    "He[Jesus] answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female..." (Matthew 19:4)

    Now I totally agree with you that God designed the physical universe, created all physical laws, etc. But I disagree that God used evolution to create life.
     
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    This statement still doesn't exclude the tool of evolution being used to create them.

    An analogous statement for a carpenter might be, "He who created them made them night stand and chest of drawers..."

    The statement doesn't talk about the tools that the carpenter has used, if you equate evolution as a tool of creation the statement by Christ might still include evolution. Much like the carpenter might have used a hammer or a maul to create his night stand.
     
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    Well, assure yourself, then let me know what you decided.
     

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