VastLWC Presents: Let's have a productive discussion: Afghanistan

Discussion in 'Afghanistan' started by Vast LWC, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Vast LWC
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    So, if you folks were president, how would you approach the Afghanistan problem?

    Please be detailed, and explain why you think your plan would be effective.

    And remember, this thread is about productive suggestions, not criticizing existing plans.
     
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    Bring our troops home now. Continuing to intervene in their affairs is unlikely to produce positive results.
     
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    I still haven't seen an effective exit strategy. If they can't show how to effectively stabilize Afghanistan in a reasonable timeframe, it is time to pull out
     
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    OK, pull out completely, that's a suggestion.

    Anyone else?
     
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    Make a decision to either influence the country or cut and run. Can't do both.

    Like Iraq, there must be pacification coupled with helping to develop the skills needed for building schools, infrastructure, and bringing the populace into at least the late 19th C. Help build the base of knowledge of fair expectations of responsive government and the benefits of capitalism, (sorry for that filthy word). In many ways people there 'get it.' an acre of poppies brings how much $$$? An acre of wheat? Got to find the ways and benefits around that.

    If instead we cut and run, be prepared for very bad blowback, as all our allies have made clear, along with our own generals. Obama said he won't do this, fine and good. So got to pick the other choice, which means more troops and more smart folks.
     
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    The problem is Afghanistan hasn't really been a nation since, well, forever. How do we go about nation building from scratch?
     
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    Agreed. Nation building is not practical and I haven't seen any desire for that from anyone.

    I have seen a request for additional troops to prevent the momentum of the growing insurgency. After reading the assessment, it seems reasonable that these troops will do that initially and allow for more efforts to train locals to actually police themselves.

    Or, we don't provide the troops and just get the hell out immediately. Apparently, that would eventually allow for radical factions to become well entrenched.

    Give those who are on the ground what they need or don't and get out, now. Don't waste their time and lives with pussyfooting, though.
     
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    So those are the only two choices?

    A full Marshall plan, or a full pullout?

    Perhaps there are some other strategies that might work?
     
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    Suggest, please.
     
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    We lost the opportunity for other choices when the U.S. pulled resources from Afghanistan to support the Iraq invasion. I would amplify si modo's comment and suggest that the bad guys are very entrenched, certainly outside of the capitol. We could not save China or Vietnam because we would or could not put in the resources necessary to do so. I do not think American people are ready for a massive effort eight years after the first fighting began on the ground there. So: come home and prepare for a massive criticism from our allies.
     

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