Vaping and Ignorant Control-Freak Snowflakes

Cecilie1200

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So okay, this is a bit of a rant, but also a very current and relevant health and lifestyle topic.

As we've probably all noticed, vaping - inhaling the vapor produced by an elecronic cigarette or similar device - has become extremely popular of late. As you may or may not also have noticed, most people who do not vape themselves know almost nothing about it. And because we live in a society where people increasingly feel entitled to be "outraged" about every damned thing that comes along, AND to get all in other people's faces and demand their own way and try to control the behavior of others, people who do vape increasingly get harassed for no real, substantive reason while minding their own business and obeying all relevant laws.

This is something I've talked about on occasion before. I, obviously, am someone who vapes. I am one of the rare few vapers who has never smoked. I took it up a few years ago as a means of acute stress management, and it's very effective. Most people who vape are either trying to quit smoking, or have quit smoking. But I am constantly having to deal with imbeciles who have their panties all in a ruffle because they assume - in their towering, self-righteous ignorance - that vaping IS smoking.

Vaping is NOT smoking, by definition. It was invented specifically for the purpose of being a smoking alternative, like nicotine gums or patches, but more effective because it has the ability to satisfy the smoker's craving for the ACTIVITY of smoking, as well as for the nicotine itself.

Currently, I'm being harassed by the self-righteous hag who manages the office building I work in for the new owner. She galumphs around the place, making any number of changes and decrees in how things will be done here based on her own personal preferences, and spends a great deal of time complaining to people's bosses.

Her very first order was that people are no longer allowed to bring their small pets to work. Now mind you, this is a small, older office complex full of small businesses. One of the perks a lot of businesses of these types get in exchange for renting in a building like this is precisely the ability to have an "office pet", and have been bringing these animals here for years.

Her second order was that people eating lunch outside HAD to do it only at the outdoor table sets, rather than sitting on the edges of the multiple fountains installed in the building courtyards (all the fountains are built specifically with wide lips intended to serve as benches). Of course, no one wanted to do that, since there were only two tables provided, they were right next to the smoking area, AND they sit in direct sunlight all day long. Everyone started eating lunch in their offices.

Her new kick, though, is to go around to the bosses of all the employees who work here and bitch about how we need to "smoke" only in the smoking area, because that's the law, and "secondhand smoke", and blah blah blah. There are actually a lot of people who vape here besides me, and we're all pissed. One, we resent being called "smokers" and consider it insulting; two, for many of us getting away from cigarette smoke was the whole point of taking up vaping, and as someone who has never smoked, I always resent being forced to be around it; three, Arizona law not only does not include vaping in its regulations on smoking, it specifically EXCLUDES it.

Yes, before anyone starts ranting about "they have a right!" I'm aware that the building owner, and by extension, the building manager, can make any rules they like about their own property. But realistically, if your business is renting to OTHER businesses, there are a whole host of accommodations you need to make, or at least consider, rather than simply issuing edicts based on your personal preferences.
 
Wow that was a lot of work...do you feel better?...I have never seen anyone ridiculed for vaping at least not yet...There is no real odor to it like with a cigarette... you can smell a cancer stick from three cars ahead of you at a red light....yuck!
 
Wow that was a lot of work...do you feel better?...I have never seen anyone ridiculed for vaping at least not yet...There is no real odor to it like with a cigarette... you can smell a cancer stick from three cars ahead of you at a red light....yuck!

I feel a little better, but not enough. Miserable blonde troll is creating a hostile work environment out of what has always been a wonderful place.

People are always asking me what kind of cookies I've been eating, because the scent from my vape on my clothes smells like cookies (usually snickerdoodles).
 
Wow that was a lot of work...do you feel better?...I have never seen anyone ridiculed for vaping at least not yet...There is no real odor to it like with a cigarette... you can smell a cancer stick from three cars ahead of you at a red light....yuck!

I feel a little better, but not enough. Miserable blonde troll is creating a hostile work environment out of what has always been a wonderful place.

People are always asking me what kind of cookies I've been eating, because the scent from my vape on my clothes smells like cookies (usually snickerdoodles).

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned the security guard outside the supermarket who thought he had to stomp over and tell me that "You're not allowed to smoke here", and got a lecture from me AND an ass-chewing from the supermarket manager, who had apparently already told him twice not to bother people who are vaping, so long as they aren't directly in front of the door.
 
My doctor’s office has a no vaping sign. I am a long time quitter of cigs I don’t vape but remember vividly the harassment. Wait til we legalize pot and you have assholes running over your pets and children.
 
My doctor’s office has a no vaping sign. I am a long time quitter of cigs I don’t vape but remember vividly the harassment. Wait til we legalize pot and you have assholes running over your pets and children.

It's one thing with cigarettes, because they don't smell very good to non-smokers and the secondhand smoke is harmful. And, of course, there are city, county, and state laws prohibiting doing so in certain areas. That's not the case with vaping, which is rarely harmful to the person doing it and not the least harmful to anyone around them, and usually smells like fruit, or dessert, or something like that (my current juice smells like strawberry milk).

Most people who own rental properties understand that they have to put their own personal preferences aside to a certain extent to accommodate their tenants. The Blonde Fuhrer doesn't seem to have figured that out. Rumor has it she's planning to make a new rule that all eating indoors has to be done in designated kitchen/breakroom areas, which is ridiculous in a place that has tiny offices that usually don't have enough workspace as it is.
 
(usually snickerdoodles).
Yummy....I worked at wonder bread while in college and always smelled like baking bread....made all of my friends hungry....

I like baking bread at home and tormenting the neighbors, since I know perfectly well that none of them have the slightest clue how to bake bread.

I'm an evil person. I've come to terms with it.
 
(usually snickerdoodles).
Yummy....I worked at wonder bread while in college and always smelled like baking bread....made all of my friends hungry....

I like baking bread at home and tormenting the neighbors, since I know perfectly well that none of them have the slightest clue how to bake bread.

I'm an evil person. I've come to terms with it.

And if I may say, you're damn good at it. :rock:
 
My doctor’s office has a no vaping sign. I am a long time quitter of cigs I don’t vape but remember vividly the harassment. Wait til we legalize pot and you have assholes running over your pets and children.
Really? I have ten dogs and manage not to run over any of them. Raised 4 kids, they all lived to be smelly adults..Smoked weed the whole time..
 
(usually snickerdoodles).
Yummy....I worked at wonder bread while in college and always smelled like baking bread....made all of my friends hungry....

I like baking bread at home and tormenting the neighbors, since I know perfectly well that none of them have the slightest clue how to bake bread.

I'm an evil person. I've come to terms with it.

And if I may say, you're damn good at it. :rock:

One plays to one's strengths.
 
So . . . what's interesting about the workplace thing is that the largest tenant in the building is . . . wait for it . . . a rental property management company. They take up an entire side of the building all by themselves, and being the largest company here, they also employ the largest number of vapers. Scuttlebutt is that the managers there are getting a lot of complaints from their employees about this latest diktat. They have their very own personal smoking area, but their employees who vape don't want to hang out with the smokers (especially since all the smoking areas around here are, coincidentially, in direct sunlight).
 

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