Van Jones on libertarians

[rightwinger]

The problem is "libertarian" is an extremely loose word with a wide range of definitions.

Anarchists are libertarians and as a classical liberal I find anarchy a) to be impossible by definition and b) retarded...

I'm a classical liberal who staunchly believes in our Bill of Rights...

Our federal government has ZERO right dictating our economic and social outcome... That doesn't mean I don't believe in law and order within reason..

So, as a libertarian, you believe in social Darwinism

Absolutely.....

If you think it's a good idea to stick your finger in a light socket - you deserve to get zapped.

In what universe is it our governments responsibility to prevent people from doing stupid shit???

Not to mention who says what some entities even do is stupid??? why because government says so??

Besides, it's not really like the government gives a fuck about you, me or the other guy.. They give a fuck about themselves, power and money...

Let the poor starve......it's their problem

 

[Mr.Nick]

So, as a libertarian, you believe in social Darwinism

Absolutely.....

If you think it's a good idea to stick your finger in a light socket - you deserve to get zapped.

In what universe is it our governments responsibility to prevent people from doing stupid shit???

Not to mention who says what some entities even do is stupid??? why because government says so??

Besides, it's not really like the government gives a fuck about you, me or the other guy.. They give a fuck about themselves, power and money...

Let the poor starve......it's their problem

Of course it's their problem....

They're either lazy or stupid....

You think people would starve if our government got the fuck out the way and allowed a free market???

Hell no - only the lazy would starve.

Truth is most poor people are only a) temporarily poor or b) lazy because they know people like you advocate that the government let them live for free.

Yes, there are people out there with legitimate cases - but those people will only be temporarily poor - NOT TO MENTION good people like myself donate to charities who help those in legitimate unfortunate circumstances.....

Living off the taxpayer permanently isn't a right....

It's not our governments responsibility to care for people financially ....

 

[hortysir]

Crashing wolrd economies with idiotic repeal of regulations is not an ideal of the founders

Really?

You don't get out much, do you?

"As President, I've eliminated dozens of programs that weren't working, and announced over 500 regulatory reforms that will save businesses and taxpayers billions,

Transcript: Read the full text of Obama's speech on the GOP budget - chicagotribune.com

 

[Paulie]

Of course the obligatory TM and rightwinger educational posts in a thread about libertarianism.

 

[Oddball]

I have known Libertarians intimately since July 1977. Yes, I can pinpoint the exact date because that is when I attended the 1977 Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) convention in NYC and encountered a butt-load of them.

Heck yeah I was a member of YAF. I was my town chairman of YAF.

Thus, I can boast I have been a Conservative since before being a Conservative was cool. This was the post-Watergate, CIA domestic spying scandal, Three Mile Island, Jimmy Carter era.

So it is true I have been debating Libertarians since decades before the invention of the Internet.

Thus, I would like to say the following post by konradv is dead on in its encapsulation of the Libertarian problem and explains their lack of success:

The problem is "libertarian" is an extremely loose word with a wide range of definitions.

Anarchists are libertarians and as a classical liberal I find anarchy a) to be impossible by definition and b) retarded...

I'm a classical liberal who staunchly believes in our Bill of Rights...

Our federal government has ZERO right dictating our economic and social outcome... That doesn't mean I don't believe in law and order within reason..

So, as a libertarian, you believe in social Darwinism

So, as a socialist, you believe in absolute authoritarian central planning and dictatorship, in order to force a better human being from the top down.

See how that works, tovarich?

 

[Listening]

Libertarians are simply CONZ who want to smoke dope and visit prostitutes.

And liberals are the ones who can't afford the dope or the prostitutes so they get pissed.

 

[hjmick]

The next time I care about something Van Jones says will be the first time.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Exactly Which 'Libertarians' Is This Ignoramus Talking About? « LewRockwell.com Blog

Unfortunately I don't know how to embed the video here, but it's fun. My favorite part is when he says Grover Norquist is the leader of the libertarian movement.

What do you expect, he is a progressive.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Why is it always non-libertarians who think they can best describe libertarians?

Because generally libertarians don't get it. They live within their own constructed reality, much like the Marxists, espousing an "ism" that would take a basic shift in human nature to work.

Bullshit.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Exactly Which 'Libertarians' Is This Ignoramus Talking About? « LewRockwell.com Blog

Unfortunately I don't know how to embed the video here, but it's fun. My favorite part is when he says Grover Norquist is the leader of the libertarian movement.

explain how he is not?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Van Jones is a better man than any of you here

 

[Quantum Windbag]

libertarians cant seem to get many Americans to believe their crazy ideas

We don't have to, the Republicans and the Democrats do all the work for us.