Value of more CO2

[Skull]

Carbon Dioxide increases Earth's greening and thus helps food production:

CO2 Coalition | What Rising CO2 Means for Global Food Security

 

[toobfreak]

Carbon Dioxide increases Earth's greening and thus helps food production:

CO2 Coalition | What Rising CO2 Means for Global Food Security

CO2 is plant food. I support a greener Earth!

 

[Crick]

A great deal more of the Earth will become desert brown with increasing CO2. And the places that will get greener will likely not have been previously arable and so will not be 'configured' for agriculture. The soil may be poor (since little has grown there before), there may be no infrastructure to support agriculture, the land may already be occupied with people or livestock or mining or who knows. But, the idea that increasing CO2 will do nothing but make the world greener is false... Dangerously false.

 

[Skull]

From the summary of the White Paper in my OP's link:

Just as it does in commercial greenhouses every day, the CO2 that has been added to the atmosphere has already “greened” the planet. Since 1900, crop production has been increased on the order of 15 to 30 percent. This White Paper’s detailed review of the latest field research shows that this effect will only improve as carbon dioxide continues to rise from four percent of one percent of the atmosphere today to, perhaps, six percent of one percent in 50 years. In addition to boosting yields per unit of land area, CO2 also boosts yields per unit of fertilizer applied and water used.

In regions where food shortages persist, these enhancements by industrial CO2 will mean the difference between food security and food insecurity. They will aid in lifting hundreds of millions of people out of a state of hunger and malnutrition, preventing widespread starvation and premature death.

 

[skookerasbil]

A great deal more of the Earth will become desert brown with increasing CO2. And the places that will get greener will likely not have been previously arable and so will not be 'configured' for agriculture. The soil may be poor (since little has grown there before), there may be no infrastructure to support agriculture, the land may already be occupied with people or livestock or mining or who knows. But, the idea that increasing CO2 will do nothing but make the world greener is false... Dangerously false.

meh....oh....and fake too.

That's been being said by climate hysterics for 30 years and the world is only getting greener......fucking duh

Global Tree Cover Has Expanded More Than 7 Percent Since 1982
Satellite data finds that gains temperate and boreal forests offset reductions in tropical forests.
Ronald Bailey|Sep. 4, 2018 1:00 pm

https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/04/global-tree-cover-has-expanded-more-than

 

[skookerasbil]

Do these climate hysterics ever get tired of the whole public humiliation thing?

Evidently not.

 

[Oddball]

A great deal more of the Earth will become desert brown with increasing CO2. And the places that will get greener will likely not have been previously arable and so will not be 'configured' for agriculture. The soil may be poor (since little has grown there before), there may be no infrastructure to support agriculture, the land may already be occupied with people or livestock or mining or who knows. But, the idea that increasing CO2 will do nothing but make the world greener is false... Dangerously false.

 

[skookerasbil]

A great deal more of the Earth will become desert brown with increasing CO2. And the places that will get greener will likely not have been previously arable and so will not be 'configured' for agriculture. The soil may be poor (since little has grown there before), there may be no infrastructure to support agriculture, the land may already be occupied with people or livestock or mining or who knows. But, the idea that increasing CO2 will do nothing but make the world greener is false... Dangerously false.

lol....I love making fun of climate crusaders.

 

[Wyatt earp]

A great deal more of the Earth will become desert brown with increasing CO2. And the places that will get greener will likely not have been previously arable and so will not be 'configured' for agriculture. The soil may be poor (since little has grown there before), there may be no infrastructure to support agriculture, the land may already be occupied with people or livestock or mining or who knows. But, the idea that increasing CO2 will do nothing but make the world greener is false... Dangerously false.

liar...... history is not strong with you AGW cult nut sacks is it?

 

[Crick]

Discovering the Effects of Carbon Dioxide Levels on Marine Life and Global Climate
Carbon dioxide's effects on plants increase global warming, study finds
https://www.nap.edu/read/1911/chapter/8
Effects of Rising Atmospheric Concentrations of Carbon Dioxide on Plants | Learn Science at Scitable
Ask the Experts: Does Rising CO2 Benefit Plants?
Indirect effects of rising CO2 levels on ecosystems more important than previously thought | University of Southampton
The Effects of Carbon Dioxide on Air Pollution
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide - Global Warming Petition Project

Science is not strong with you denier ratbastards, is it

 

[Oddball]

Discovering the Effects of Carbon Dioxide Levels on Marine Life and Global Climate
Carbon dioxide's effects on plants increase global warming, study finds
https://www.nap.edu/read/1911/chapter/8
Effects of Rising Atmospheric Concentrations of Carbon Dioxide on Plants | Learn Science at Scitable
Ask the Experts: Does Rising CO2 Benefit Plants?
Indirect effects of rising CO2 levels on ecosystems more important than previously thought | University of Southampton
The Effects of Carbon Dioxide on Air Pollution
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide - Global Warming Petition Project

Science is not strong with you denier ratbastards, is it

More crap that has never ever been shown to be predictive....GIGO.

 

[Crick]

You think that's a significant objection to all that? Why don't you just stand out this evening and put a wish on the first star you see.

Rising CO2 is NOT going to make the Earth better in any regard.

And, like I said, you've got NOTHING to contribute here.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Discovering the Effects of Carbon Dioxide Levels on Marine Life and Global Climate
Carbon dioxide's effects on plants increase global warming, study finds
https://www.nap.edu/read/1911/chapter/8
Effects of Rising Atmospheric Concentrations of Carbon Dioxide on Plants | Learn Science at Scitable
Ask the Experts: Does Rising CO2 Benefit Plants?
Indirect effects of rising CO2 levels on ecosystems more important than previously thought | University of Southampton
The Effects of Carbon Dioxide on Air Pollution
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide - Global Warming Petition Project

Science is not strong with you denier ratbastards, is it

once again nut sack just study science and history........ more C02 plants and animals grow HUGE!!!!!!!

 

[Crick]

Those links lead to articles and studies written by scientists concerning this topic. You are wrong (and willfully ignorant) to dismiss them out of hand.

There will be some areas of the planet that will grow greener with increased CO2, but far more of the planet will not do well due to increased temperatures, altered rainfall and meltwater patterns and loss and/or changes in animal migrations and populations of pollinating insects..

 

[sealybobo]

Carbon Dioxide increases Earth's greening and thus helps food production:

CO2 Coalition | What Rising CO2 Means for Global Food Security

So you are starting to spread the misinformation already?

Trump Parrots Anti-Science Misinformation As He Readies Climate Change Panel | HuffPost

President Donald Trump on Tuesday once again used his Twitter platform to share misinformation about climate change to his 59 million followers, quoting a “Fox & Friends” guest who falsely claimed global warming isn’t caused by man and could actually benefit many people.

Former Greenpeace Canada President Patrick Moore, a longtime nuclear energy industry shill, denied that human activity fuels climate change and claimed the phenomenon doesn’t pose an imminent danger to life on earth, despite the mountains of scientific evidence that suggest otherwise.

Moore often “misrepresents” himself in the media as an environmental “expert” despite his anti-science views.

“Patrick Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries for more than 30 years, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries,”

He is both a policy adviser at the right-wing libertarian Heartland Institute, a group at the front of the climate denial movement, and a board member of the CO2 Coalition, a fringe think tank that argues humans and the planet benefit from carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere.

Trump’s reported pick to lead the committee is William Happer, a retired Princeton physics professor with no expertise in climatology.

Also being considered for a spot on the White House panel is retired MIT professor Richard Lindzen. Lindzen is both on CO2 Coalition’s board of directors and a distinguished senior fellow at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank based in Washington, D.C., that is funded by the fossil-fuel billionaire Koch brothers.

Moore took the opportunity during his Fox & Friends interview Tuesday to give a plug for the CO2 Coalition.

“We believe that carbon dioxide is entirely beneficial to both the environment, to agriculture and forestry and to the climate of the earth,”

 

[Skull]

Articles and studies from the CO2 Coalition:

CO2 Coalition | Studies & Resources

 

[Crick]

From CO2 Coalition's About page

The CO2 Coalition was established in 2015 as a 501(c)(3) for the purpose of educating thought leaders, policy makers, and the public about the important contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and the economy. The Coalition seeks to engage in an informed and dispassionate discussion of climate change, humans’ role in the climate system, the limitations of climate models, and the consequences of mandated reductions in CO2 emissions.

In carrying out our mission, we seek to strengthen the understanding of the role of science and the scientific process in addressing complex public policy issues like climate change. Science produces empirical, measurable, objective facts and provides a means for testing hypotheses that can be replicated and potentially disproven. Approaches to policy that do not adhere to the scientific process risk grave damage to the economy and to science.

From CO2 Coalition's DeSmog Blog page at CO2 Coalition

The CO2 Coalition was established in 2015 from the remains of the now-defunct George C. Marshall Institute (GMI) and registered as a 501(c)(3) organization for the purpose of “educating thought leaders, policy makers, and the public about the important contribution made by carbon dioxide and fossil fuels to our lives and the economy.” [1], [2]
The GMI shut down in September/October of 2015. A GMI press release noted the group's national security research would be transferred to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), while it is apparent that the CO2 Coalition would take over Marshall's “work on energy and climate change.” [3], [4]

The CO2 Coalition's tag line is “Carbon dioxide, a nutrient vital for life,” and it appears to share many of the views put forward by Craig Idso's Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change (Co2science.org). Craig Idso is notably listed on the CO2 Coalition's Board of Directors. [1]

“The CO2 Coalition seeks to engage thought leaders, policy makers, and the public in an informed and dispassionate discussion about the important contribution made by carbon dioxide and fossil fuels. We seek to shift the debate from the unjustified criticism of CO2 and fossil fuels to one based on a solid scientific foundation. Any discussion of climate change needs to address the extent of our knowledge of the climate system, well-established uncertainties, the limitations of climate models, and the consequences of mandated reductions in CO2emissions,” the CO2 Coalition's homepage states. [1]
In December of 2015, coalition director William Happer was implicated in a Greenpeace investigation where activists posed as consultants for a Middle Eastern energy company and asked Happer and Frank Clemente, an emeritus sociology professor at Pennsylvania State University, to author reports on the benefits of coal and carbon dioxide emissions. [5]

The Mercer Family Foundation was a top donor to the CO2 Coalition in 2016 with a $150,000 donation. The Foundation is run by by Rebekah Mercer, the daughter of hedge fund manager Robert Mercer, and has funnelled millions of dollars to conservative causes and climate change denial groups. [42]

 

[Wuwei]

Accelerated greening of forests are certainly a good thing.
But acceleration decreases the quality of food plants.

In food plants a faster assimilation of carbon causes plants to generate more starches and sugars. Nitrogen can't be assimilated as fast so the amount of protein drops. Also vital trace minerals are not absorbed as much with a shorter field life of the plants.

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[Crick]

And any crop benefits from increased CO2 will be more than offset by harm from precipitation changes, increased temperatures, drought, flooding, insect losses, sea level rise (salt infiltration into aquifers), etc, etc, etc.