Vaccine Mandate Precedent: Jacobson v. Massachusetts

Car accidents aren't airborne and contagious. And the rate of death from COVID has been more than an order of magnitude higher

You may insist that 36,000 deaths in a year represents the same threat to the public as 500,000 in the same time period. But you'll have a hard time convincing a judge of that.
I'll repeat. Dead is dead. What difference does is make to your theory of the Constitution? Further, what does magnitiude of death have to do with your theory of he General Welfare clause? Is there some threshold?
 
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the efficacy of the vaccine.

Nice try.

Efficacy of the vaccine? Yeah about that.




 
OSHA existence demonstrates the authority of the federal government to regulate safety in businesses within States. Thus, any argument that the federal government lacks such authority is demonstrably false.
Covid is a health issue, not a safety issue.
 
Car accidents aren't airborne and contagious. And the rate of death from COVID has been more than an order of magnitude higher

You may insist that 36,000 deaths in a year represents the same threat to the public as 500,000 in the same time period. But you'll have a hard time convincing a judge of that.
You used the ratio of 1-500, Car accidents and Heart Disease have much higher rates. 655,000 die of heart disease per year, much of it preventable. We could ban cigarettes', alcohol, fats, sugars, breads, require everyone to exercise everyday. When should the government start with those mandates?
 
You're right, there is no constitutional authority for OSHA to exist.

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Then why, pray tell, has it not yet been disbanded by court challenge?

Are you the very first to stumble upon this vast legal loophole, one so obvious and profound that no legal scholar, lawyer, or judge has ever discovered it.....save you?

Or, do you just have no idea what you're talking about again? Which do you think it is, Dunning-Kruger?
 
You used the ratio of 1-500, Car accidents and Heart Disease have much higher rates. 655,000 die of heart disease per year, much of it preventable. We could ban cigarettes', alcohol, fats, sugars, breads, require everyone to exercise everyday. When should the government start with those mandates?

1 in 500.....in a year and a half. A disease that is both airborne, contagious, and overwhelmingly preventable.

Heart Disease......has a tiny fraction of that rate of death, is neither airborne nor contagious, and has no vaccine.

Again, the factors you ignore are immense. Convincing judge to ignore what you do is going to be a tough sell.
 
Efficacy of the vaccine? Yeah about that.




Yeah, about that. The virus is mutating, thanks in large part to the unvaccinated.

We need a global vaccination effort to eliminate Covid the same way we eliminated small pox.
 
i’m sure some folks will…that’s why we have courts
Well, we've had a US Attorney General since 1789. What the hell are they waiting for?

1789. You know. The Founders. The guys who wrote the Constitution.
 
1 in 500.....in a year and a half. A disease that is both airborne, contagious, and overwhelmingly preventable.

Heart Disease......has a tiny fraction of that rate of death, is neither airborne nor contagious, and has no vaccine.

Again, the factors you ignore are immense. Convincing judge to ignore what you do is going to be a tough sell.
650,000 a year die from heart disease every year, and heart disease was also a catalyst for Covid deaths as well.

I see you only like selective science as heart disease is cause by many factors that could be prevented. Your whole vaccinated BS falls apart with that logic.
 
Threat to other people.
Interesting., So under your theory, the FEderal government could forceably sterilize black women, becasue a disproportionate number of their children become violent criminals.
 
I'll repeat. Dead is dead. What difference does is make to your theory of the Constitution? Further, what does magnitiude of death have to do with your theory of he General Welfare clause? Is there some threshold?

36,000 is not 500,000. And yes, those massive differences matter when determining if a given threat falls under General Welfare.

Especially when the threat is airborne, contagious and overwhelmingly preventable.
 
1 in 500.....in a year and a half. A disease that is both airborne, contagious, and overwhelmingly preventable.

Heart Disease......has a tiny fraction of that rate of death, is neither airborne nor contagious, and has no vaccine.

Again, the factors you ignore are immense. Convincing judge to ignore what you do is going to be a tough sell.
A year and a half? Which other statistics are judged on that timeline? Monkeying around with nonstandard parameters only cheapens the effect. How pathetic.
 
36,000 is not 500,000. And yes, those massive differences matter when determining if a given threat falls under General Welfare.

Especially when the threat is airborne, contagious and overwhelmingly preventable.
What's 36,000? And why would that not trigger your General Welfare Clause?
 
That was local and state government, there is no federal mandate.

And there are huge differences as COVID has a survival rate of 99.98%, and millions now have a natural immunity to COVID; an immunity superior to any vaccine-provided immunity.

As it says in Jacobson:

It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine.


Neither case you present touches on any federal mandate.
Sorry, but the real survival numbers are 97.94% globally and 98.40% nationally. Much better numbers than initially, but undoubtedly in large part to Biden’s insistence on vaccination after Trump dropped the ball.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
 
OSHA existence demonstrates the authority of the federal government to regulate safety in businesses within States. Thus, any argument that the federal government lacks such authority is demonstrably false.


Can OSHA tell a company their employees can't ride motorcycles or go skydiving? The fact is OSHA only has the authority to regulate business practices related to the safety of workplace procedures, not the individual choices of their employees that have nothing to do with those procedures.

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Cool, States can…they have police powers.

The Federal Govt does not
I'm honestly curious about something. What precise mental phenomenon causes someone like you to be told that the federal government has no police powers and you swallow that and parrot it in direct contradiction to the screamingly obvious fact in front of your face that the feds DO have police powers?

I mean, this level of credulity actually frightens me. It does explain how Trump is able to spit in the faces of the rubes and lie prolifically without any fear that his followers will engage in even a second's worth of critical thinking.

But I honestly want to know how you are able to shut your brain entirely off like that.

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Interesting., So under your theory, the FEderal government could forceably sterilize black women, becasue a disproportionate number of their children become violent criminals.

Nope. Being a black woman is neither airborne, contagious, nor preventable with a vaccine.

Nor does being a black woman kill 1 in 500 Americans in only 18 months.

Try again. You're raising strained metaphors to a bit of an art form.
 

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