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    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/fcc631cc-bf...r=http://www.drudgereport.com/&nclick_check=1

    I can't tell you how many times I have said that if you REALLY want to address the deficts and debt, you need to cut entitlrment spending.
     
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    I agree with you, believe me. I'd like to see a masive cut in Defense spending as well, but as far as entitlement spending goes, who do you think is actually going to DO IT?

    It's easy to SAY that you want to, but of the candidates, who's record matches up with that rhetoric? The only one in the field who actually cares about cutting spending like a TRUE fiscal conservative is RP, and his record clearly indicates that. NO ONE is more fiscally responsible based on their record, as RP is.

    Obviously I'm partial to him, but name ONE of those Rep. candidates that will actually DO IT.
     
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    That's easy:
    People that care more about the country than their own political power.
     
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    You think any of those republicans care about the country more than their own power, besides RP?

    Romney's a fucking hardcore big-businessman turned politician...all he KNOWS is power. Besides that, he's pretty liberal when you match him up against his record. Same with Giuliani. McCain is showing his true colors lately.

    I'd say Thompson is about as close to conservative as you got if you're ruling out RP, but you can see that the conservative base is either not picking up on that because they watch too much TV, or they just don't care.

    I''m not quite sure exactly what the hell is happening to the republican party, but it's really disheartening. I can't believe the crap that's been given to us by the media this election.
     
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    I do.

    The GOP is now where the Dems were in 1980 or so.
    The Dems and the GOP have both been sliding to the left for decades.
     
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    Who?
     
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    I was addressing the question more generically -
    -I- care more about the contry than my own poplitical power.

    And, whatever you want to say about the current GOP cadnidates -- however bad they mau be in this regard, there's no question that all of the Dem candidates are far far worse.
     
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    but you didn't answer the question.

    and "cutting entitlements" is always the cry of the republicans...but they had the white house and congress for six straight years and spent like drunken sailors the entire time... if you are going to spend that kind of money, don't cut taxes.
     
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    It's a shame that it takes a Democrat to explain the simplicity of the errors that the GOP has made in the execution of their own ideology. No offense to you, of course.

    None of these GOP candidates has a better record on spending then Ron Paul. What makes any of you think that just because now that they are running for president, and SAYING they want to cut spending, they actually WILL now?

    When will America finally stop falling for empty promises?
     
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    It really boils down to this. The mainstream GOP has betrayed their base, they promised lower government spending and have only increased government spending and put no emphasis on cutting spending.

    The mainstream DEM has betrayed their base by increasing US military commitments and allowing the situation in Iraq to escalate.

    Each party wishes to establish an integrated global economy, undermine US national sovereignty (most of them truly believe that nation states are a threat to world peace), expand US military commitments and military alliances (like NATO), and expand the power of the government (GOP through wire tapping and patriot act type bills and the DEMs through social welfare and a higher claim to one's income).
     

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