USS Liberty:Operation Northwoods?

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    Did Operation Northwoods come to the Eastern Mediterranean 44 years ago today?

    "On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel.

    "The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it.

    "Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public.

    "The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

    The Attack

    "After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

    "USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

    "Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

    "The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us.

    "Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded..."

    USS Liberty Memorial

    Did President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara know in advance of the attack on Liberty?

    Two attempts by the 6th Fleet to come to the ship's rescue were called back on their orders:

    "...(h)e told me that upon receipt of our SOS, aircraft were launched to come to our assistance and then Washington was notified. He said that the Secretary of Defense (Robert McNamara) had ordered that the aircraft be returned to the carrier, which was done.

    "RADM Geis then said that he speculated that Washington may have suspected that the aircraft carried nuclear weapons so he put together another flight of conventional aircraft that had no capability of carrying nuclear weapons.

    "These he launched to assist us and again notified Washington of his actions. Again McNamara ordered the aircraft recalled. He (Geis) requested confirmation of the order being unable to believe that Washington would let us sink.

    "This time President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies..."

    USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    They were just following orders. LBJ and Bobby had Masters too. You only think you voted for them.
    How about that lil Gulf of Tonkin thingie ?
     
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    "In the Tarnak Farm incident of April 18, 2002, four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight others injured when U.S. Air National Guard Major Harry Schmidt, dropped a laser-guided 500 lb (230 kg) bomb from his F-16 jet fighter on the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry regiment which was conducting a night firing exercise near Kandahar. Schmidt was charged with negligent manslaughter, aggravated assault, and dereliction of duty. He was found guilty of the latter charge. During testimony Schmidt blamed the incident on his use of "go pills" (authorized mild stimulants), combined with the 'fog of war'.[69] The Canadian dead received US medals for "bravery", but no apology."

    "On 5 December 2006, an F/A-18C on a Close Air Support mission in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, mistakenly attacked a trench where British Royal Marines were dug-in during a 10-hour battle with Taliban fighters, killing one Royal Marine."

    "August 23, 2007: A USAF F-15 called in to support British ground forces in Afghanistan dropped a bomb on those forces. Three privates of the 1st Battalion, the Royal Anglian Regiment, were killed and two others were severely injured. It was later revealed that the British forward air controller who called in the strike had not been issued a noise-cancelling headset, and while he supplied the correct target co-ordinates, in the confusion and stress of the battle incorrectly confirmed one wrong digit mistakenly repeated by the pilot, and the bomb landed on the British position 1000 metres away from the enemy.[79] The coroner at the soldiers' inquest stated that the incident was due to "flawed application of procedures" rather than individual errors or "recklessness"


    White nationalists and the like are constantly bringing up the USS Liberty friendly fire incident, always with the insinuation that the evil Jews actually want to kill us.

    During the Six Day War Israel's neighbors attacked her: Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. There has never been a war of this scale in which there were no incidents of friendly fire.

    Israel both apologized and paid compensation for this incident, over forty years ago.

    Tell us how the Jews are actually the ones controlling the US.
     
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    "British soldiers in operations in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, fired Javelin anti-tank missiles at Danish soldiers from the Royal Life Guards, killing two.[81] It is also confirmed from Danish forces that the British fired a total of 6-8 Javelin missiles, over a 1½ hour period and only after the attack was completed did they realize that the missiles were British, based upon the fragments found after the incident."

    "British Royal Marine Christopher Maddison was killed when his river patrol boat was hit by missiles after being wrongly identified as an enemy vessel approaching a Royal Engineers checkpoint on the Al-Faw Peninsula, Iraq."

    "US Patriot missile batteries fired two missiles on a US Navy F/A-18C Hornet 50 mi (80 km) from Karbala, Iraq.[100] One missile hit the aircraft of pilot Lieutenant Nathan Dennis White of VFA-195, Carrier Air Wing Five, killing him. This was the result of the missile design flaw in identifying hostile aircraft."

    "American aircraft attacked a friendly Kurdish & U.S. Special Forces convoy, killing 15. BBC translator Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed was killed and BBC reporter Tom Giles and World Affairs Editor John Simpson were injured. The incident was filmed."
     
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    This is the politics board, you are obviously looking for the conspiracy theory board.
     
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    LBJ allegedly admitted as much when he confessed he couldn't stop the war in Vietnam "because his friends were making too much damn money."

    Apparently ol' Lyndon made a dollar or two off that crime, as well.
     
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    Do you read English?

    "After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

    "USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter."

    One of the IDF pilots ordered to assault Liberty refused and returned to his base.
    He faced court martial.

    This was not a case of mistaken identity according to every single survivor of Liberty.

    But you know better?
     
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    "Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty."

    "In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the U.S. claim of $7,644,146 for material damage to the Liberty itself.

    Purportedly, on December 17, 1987, the issue was officially closed by the two governments through an exchange of diplomatic notes."

    Are there unresolved questions about this incident? Yes, absolutely. I believe Congress should have investigated. Do I believe that Israel--after being practically given a state-of-the-art military courtesy of the US of A maliciously murdered, with the full knowledge of both Israeli and American leadership, with implications that LBJ himself was involved in the cover-up?

    No. Your thread belongs in conspiracy theory.
     
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    Anyone who thinks the USS Liberty incident was an accident is brain dead.

    Israel wanted to drag the United States into their conflict.

    This was the rare instance where one of Israel's false flag operations failed.
     
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    The story goes that the president withheld assistance to the USS Liberty. Do you believe LBJ's administration was in cahoots with the Israel's to get us into the conflict...that lasted 6 days.
     

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