Uss Indianapolis

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72 years back she goes down with great loss of life as the I-58 scores

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Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35
It was a part of the movie Jaws.
The Captain was a member of the crew that went down.
The survivors were in the water so long that their skin peeled off of their bones when their rescuers tried to pull them out of the water.
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35
It was a part of the movie Jaws.
The Captain was a member of the crew that went down.
The survivors were in the water so long that their skin peeled off of their bones when their rescuers tried to pull them out of the water.

the CO survived to face a court martial. Jaws was the the first time the public was made aware of this.
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35
It was a part of the movie Jaws.
The Captain was a member of the crew that went down.
The survivors were in the water so long that their skin peeled off of their bones when their rescuers tried to pull them out of the water.
Of all your misinformed and dumb post, this one takes the cake. And you say you are former G Beret?
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35
It was a part of the movie Jaws.
The Captain was a member of the crew that went down.
The survivors were in the water so long that their skin peeled off of their bones when their rescuers tried to pull them out of the water.

the CO survived to face a court martial. Jaws was the the first time the public was made aware of this.

Dayum Hollywood Liburruls with their "history" agenda..............
 


2 mistakes. she sank in July not June. a distress call had been sent and received


You point this out because you believe this was a documentary? It's a movie made in the 70s. Movies today are not historically perfect either. I'll bet bet Quint was never really on the Indianapolis and his entire speech was written for the movie.

Relax, it's entertainment.
 


2 mistakes. she sank in July not June. a distress call had been sent and received


You point this out because you believe this was a documentary? It's a movie made in the 70s. Movies today are not historically perfect either. I'll bet bet Quint was never really on the Indianapolis and his entire speech was written for the movie.

Relax, it's entertainment.


no it's history. deal with it

The movie was not a documentary, so they were under no real obligation to be totally accurate, but the actor who described the sinking and aftermath of the USS Indianapolis gave a good and truthful representation of the facts as told by survivors of the incident. The just over two dozen survivors that remain alive today still validate the general story as told by the actor in the movie.
 


2 mistakes. she sank in July not June. a distress call had been sent and received


You point this out because you believe this was a documentary? It's a movie made in the 70s. Movies today are not historically perfect either. I'll bet bet Quint was never really on the Indianapolis and his entire speech was written for the movie.

Relax, it's entertainment.


no it's history. deal with it

The movie was not a documentary, so they were under no real obligation to be totally accurate, but the actor who described the sinking and aftermath of the USS Indianapolis gave a good and truthful representation of the facts as told by survivors of the incident. The just over two dozen survivors that remain alive today still validate the general story as told by the actor in the movie.


The movie was not a documentary
no shit. figured that out did ya?? you're right historical accuracy means shit. and change the 911 attack to 811. hell who's gonna know let alone care???
 
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Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35


They didn't forget about it... it was under radio silence, and it wasn't the Captain's fault, he asked for cruiser escorts and was turned down.
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35


They didn't forget about it... it was under radio silence, and it wasn't the Captain's fault, he asked for cruiser escorts and was turned down.

There wasn't a search for the ship even when it did not arrive at its destination, yeah I think that is forgetting.

From the linked article: The ship's captain, the late Charles Butler McVay III, survived and was court-martialed and convicted of "hazarding his ship by failing to zigzag" despite overwhelming evidence that the Navy itself had placed the ship in harm's way, despite testimony from the Japanese submarine commander that zigzagging would have made no difference, and despite that fact that, although over 350 navy ships were lost in combat in WWII, McVay was the only captain to be court-martialed. Materials declassified years later add to the evidence that McVay was a scapegoat for the mistakes of others.
 
It is important to note at the outset that vital information pertinent to determining responsibility for the loss of the Indianapolis was not made public until long after the subsequent court-martial and conviction of Captain McVay. U.S. intelligence using a top secret operation labeled ULTRA had broken the Japanese code and was aware that two Japanese submarines, including the I-58, were operating in the path of the Indianapolis.

This information was classified and not made available to either the court-martial board or to Captain McVay's defense counsel. It did not become known until the early 1990s that - despite knowledge of the danger in its path - naval authorities at Guam had sent the Indianapolis into harm's way without any warning, refusing her captain's request for a destroyer escort, and leading him to believe his route was safe.

Controversial Facts

  • Captain McVay's request for a destroyer escort was denied despite the fact that no capital ship lacking anti-submarine detection equipment, such as the Indianapolis, had made this transit across the Philippine Sea without an escort during the entire war.
  • Captain McVay was not told that shortly before his departure from Guam a Japanese submarine within range of his path had sunk a destroyer escort, the USS Underhill.
  • Shortly after the Indianapolis was sunk, naval intelligence decoded a message from the I-58 to its headquarters in Japan that it had sunk an American battleship along the route of the Indianapolis. The message was ignored.
  • Naval authorities then and now have maintained that the Indianapolis sank too quickly to send out a distress signal. A radioman aboard the Indianapolis testified at the September 1999 Senate hearing, however, that he watched the "needle jump" on the ship's transmitter, indicating that a distress signal was transmitted minutes before the ship sank, and sources at three separate locations have indicated that they were aware of a distress signal being received from the sinking ship. Its very likely that these distress signals were received but ignored as a Japanese trick to lure rescue vessels to the area.
  • Confusion on the part of Navy communications and a faulty directive caused the failure of the Indianapolis to arrive on schedule to go unnoticed, leaving as many as 900 men at the mercy of a shark-infested sea. (The faulty directive - which required only reporting the arrival of non-combatant ships - was corrected days after the Indianapolis survivors were discovered to require reporting the arrival of combatant ships as well.)
 
Don't know the ship. Background anybody?

Pretty well known. It transported the atom bomb used on Japan. On the return trip it failed to zig zag and was sunk by the Japanese. A lot of the crew survived only to die in the water due to exposure and sharks. Seems like the Navy forgot about the ship until a plane flying over head happened to see the remains.

USS Indianapolis CA-35


They didn't forget about it... it was under radio silence, and it wasn't the Captain's fault, he asked for cruiser escorts and was turned down.

There wasn't a search for the ship even when it did not arrive at its destination, yeah I think that is forgetting.

From the linked article: The ship's captain, the late Charles Butler McVay III, survived and was court-martialed and convicted of "hazarding his ship by failing to zigzag" despite overwhelming evidence that the Navy itself had placed the ship in harm's way, despite testimony from the Japanese submarine commander that zigzagging would have made no difference, and despite that fact that, although over 350 navy ships were lost in combat in WWII, McVay was the only captain to be court-martialed. Materials declassified years later add to the evidence that McVay was a scapegoat for the mistakes of others.


McVay's court martial was eventually overturned. And no, it was under radio silence, and they didn't just "forget it" while the men were in the water dying...
 

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