USMC SGT being dismissed for saying he would never follow unlawful orders!! Wow!

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    Marine sergeant being dismissed for criticizing Obama - latimes.com

    So this honorable USMC SGT said, simply, that he would never follow an unlawful order from the commander in chief. Which, btw, is exactly the same oath he, other military members and all cops took.

    Scary times ahead folks. Barack Obama, our Commander in Chief, is allowing or ordering a USMC SGT to be dismissed from the military simply because he openly stated he would uphold his oath.

    It saddens me to think what all the deceased men and women of the WW2 generation would think of our country today if they saw this is the direction it went after their horrible fight.
     
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    He's being dismissed for breaking The Uniform Code of Military Justice. And this isn't even his first offens. In other words, though he claims he wouldn't follow an unlawful order, he was willing to break military law. Repeatedly.


    While I agree with him when he says he should have the right to express his opinions, the military does not. And this snt something new.
     
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    I think they would find it right that military personnel that violates the rules is kicked out. He is being kicked out for breaking the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Do you suggest he shouldn't abide by that code?
     
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    But...is he being "critical" of the commander in chief if he is simply saying he would never follow an unlawful order? I would think the opposite, that the commander in chief couldn't be any prouder of his men who would have such integrity as to never follow unlawful orders. Well, maybe not THIS commander in chief, but in general you know what I mean.
     
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    But he isn't being "critical" of the commander in chief. He's saying he will never follow an unlawful order from him. Which is his exact oath. Its like a private company having an employee that says "I would never violate company rules if my boss told me to violate company rules". Is that being critical of the boss? No.

    Sad day when Marines are being booted for saying they will uphold their oath.
     
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    What you write doesn't correspond with the account given in the article you quote.
     
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    Of course, if "engaging in political activity" includes just talking about it on a message board or facebook, well, thats another interpretation. I thought it meant stuff like wearing the dress uniform to a political rally and speaking. But simply saying "Im in the military, and here is my opinion on this"??? THere are dozens of military folks on THIS message board, identifying as military members, commenting on politics. Are they in violation?
     
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    .....As if The President has the time to worry about what some individual-serviceman has decided what's best for him....or, at least, what's gonna get him the most publicity.

    The Armed Forces Tea Party??

    Please.

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    True, he has a lot of fucking-up-America to do, he hasn't got time for this. BTW, he's allowed us to creep to the verge of global chaos with oil prices, Iranian war almost guaranteed, chaotic border, healthcare disaster set to begin January 2013.........well, and plenty more.
     
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    I respect any man who has the courage to go and fight for his country. But in a democracy the military do not engage in party politics. One has to choose: either be a soldier or engage in party politics; you can't do both at the same time.
     
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