USA and Free Speech

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    One of the most puzzling question about USA and their foreign policy, is their full support of Europe's Limited Speech laws while being the only country in the world, stating Limited Free Speech illegal. Take for instance Germany. It has many laws against Free Speech. You can get two years in jail if you say someone's Grand Mother picked her nose while in Church. You get five years in jail if you doubt certain events. All foreigners are included in this law. If someone films you stating something ''unlawful'' while in Germany you can get 5 years in prison. While all this is done, its politicians, Justice, Police, and Interpol hide people whom the politicians feel useful for their power play. One of those was Roman Polanski. Although wanted for rape, he was freely living there enjoying a life in luxury, even getting German Government subsidies for his filming, in spite of being a millionaire. No US politician has ever spoken against such outrageous acts done by a country boasting of its Free Speech. Will US ever stand up for Free Speech for all, and just not for a bigoted little group who use it to extort money from the public?
     
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    What right does the U.S. government have to tell other governments how to run their countries?
     
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    OF COURSE CENSORSHIP IS WELL AND LIVING. There can be many cases of USA actually abetting Censorship outside its domain, not only in Germany. Just one case: USA Embassy in Stockholm maintains records of SWEDISH artists, writers, etc., who say something, done something, painted something, which its Lobby groups feel not Kosher. This will then be used against the person by various means. Especially if you have another perspective on ''Israel,'' you are at once recorded, and there are many ways by which USA can wield its muscles to provoke problems for such a targeted person. USA is not Mencken. And never has been. And Europe is certainly way out as they in fact have Limited Censorship which means nothing else but a continuation of Medieval gag laws under a new package. The cartoon you see here was Fahrenheited 451 by Sweden [​IMG]. They certainly never spoke against it which they did against such countries as China, Soviet Union, etc., for their ''violation of free speech.'' The cartoon case was later taken up by the European Strasbourg court, whose judges all in unison agreed to that Sweden had the cartoon Fahrenheited 451. Hence, it is mere lip service. It all depends on ideological views whether USA will put on the pressure or not. In fact, really nothing else but that which Mencken said was done.
     
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    Limits on free speech are alive and well in America - it's called Political Correctness.
     
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    [​IMG]THE WHOLE WORLD STILL IN THE GRIPS OF MAN'S EVOLUTIONARY PAST? One of the few who has come to grips with Censorship was the English Bishop Benjamin Hoadly. He could see that by AUTHORITY any yarn can be concocted and nothing can stop it to prevail. Political correctness can be worked with but by Authority and Law, all they need to do is to put a heavy fine on the person, who then remains destitute for the rest of his life. And the act of ''flagging'' on the Internet is nothing but Censorship no matter what those defending it claim. It furthermore encourages violence and stops the person from analyzing that which he feels troubles him. Spinoza was correct when he said that all denial of free speech is the origin of terrorism. It works like a wild fire, from one person to the next. Modern man is today no further ahead in this respect than his parents.
     
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