US Taxes Second Lowest in Developed World

[Yurt]

what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it

hypocrite

lmao

 

[Iriemon]

what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it

hypocrite

lmao

You can neg rep me all you want. If you want to have a flame fest there are lots of others I'm sure you can find to play with.

I'll discuss and defend my positions with anyone else who wants to do so in an adult manner.

 

[Yurt]

what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it

hypocrite

lmao

You can neg rep me all you want. If you want to have a flame fest there are lots of others I'm sure you can find to play with.

I'll discuss and defend my positions with anyone else who wants to do so in an adult manner.

and apparently you neg rep me as well...more hypocritical whining from you

you think that was a flame fest...dude, get over yourself. you insult people, but that is ok....you're so sensitive when someone does it you though, forbid someone should call you a moron for accusing them of saying you said something when they clearly did not as they (I) put a question mark on the end. if you can't handle things getting heated, best stay away.

apparently you could not maturely handle the rest of the post, no surprise as you backed yourself in a corner and clearly showed yourself as a hypocrite.

oh and please accuse me of a flame fest by calling you a hypocrite, please....

wimp

 

[Yurt]

this is too funny....iriemon accuses me of a flame fest and says he won't talk with people who call others moron...

Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.

maybe i should have said fucking moron and he would felt it was an adult conversation

 

[Old Rocks]

What are the unemployment rates in those socialist countries? she wondered!

Even with our current problems, more than us and their annual growth is next to nothing.

The reason they pay so much is cause they are a Liberals wet dream, social programs that eat every dime raised.

I see. Such a Goddamned shame, spending money on the citizens that create the wealth.

 

[Yurt]

What are the unemployment rates in those socialist countries? she wondered!

Even with our current problems, more than us and their annual growth is next to nothing.

The reason they pay so much is cause they are a Liberals wet dream, social programs that eat every dime raised.

I see. Such a Goddamned shame, spending money on the citizens that create the wealth.

do wealthy people create wealth? what about just rich people...say those who make over 250K?

 

[Iriemon]

what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it

hypocrite

lmao

You can neg rep me all you want. If you want to have a flame fest there are lots of others I'm sure you can find to play with.

I'll discuss and defend my positions with anyone else who wants to do so in an adult manner.

and apparently you neg rep me as well...more hypocritical whining from you

you think that was a flame fest...dude, get over yourself. you insult people, but that is ok....you're so sensitive when someone does it you though, forbid someone should call you a moron for accusing them of saying you said something when they clearly did not as they (I) put a question mark on the end. if you can't handle things getting heated, best stay away.

apparently you could not maturely handle the rest of the post, no surprise as you backed yourself in a corner and clearly showed yourself as a hypocrite.

oh and please accuse me of a flame fest by calling you a hypocrite, please....

wimp

Take a pill.

 

[Yurt]

he won't debate, but will insult me to take a pill.....

Originally Posted by Iriemon

Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.

oh look, the hypocrite is still running from the debate because i called him a moron for not knowing the difference between a question mark and a period.

i should have said fucking moron and then that would have been adult conversation.....as he has no problem calling other a fucking moron, but whines when i call him a moron

 

[hipeter924]

Yay! Go NZ taxes! Well I am aright paying them...just that it gets spent way too much on bureaucrats.

As for US taxes....I figure that they should be increased, 1) the military needs the money 2) Obama's attempt at turning the US into a fun fair attraction will waste away the budget 3) If something isn't done soon there will be no money left

Once Obama is gone the taxes can return to normal...hopefully

 

[Care4all]

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I heartily agree with the part that I highlited in red. I think the tax system is complex so that it will be un-understandable. The simple fact that about half of the citizens are paying tax and about half are not is a very dangerous equation all by itself.

Whether it's a flat tax or a state based tax, it needs to be less complex and more simple. Anytime something gets complex, I feel like the screwing has begun.

Our tax system is a maze of confusion right now that punishes and rewards based on caprice. If you want to see a movie, you need to pay the admission. If you want to be a citizen, you only need to pay according to your means and, if you need increasingly more assistance from the government, you pay increasingly less. What's wrong with this picture?

yes, the bottom 50% income earners pay only 3.5 percent of the income tax bill.


however, the bottom 50% only own/earn 2.5% of the wealth in this country.

the top 1% income earner individuals, own/earn 33% of all the wealth in this country...

that's a pretty huge disparity in wealth owned....whose gap has only grown larger.

I agree our income taxes are way too complicated and need simplifying, but i do not believe the wealthiest are paying too much or our poorest are paying too little of the income tax burden....based on their share of this country's individual wealth.


http://www.tolerance.org/images/teach/activities/tt_wealth_tables.pdf

care

Care.. make sure you separate wealth and earnings.. we tax on earnings/income... not on what you have saved

And since we tax on earnings... and we are supposed to be a country based on equality... as stated SO many times... we need a 1 rate system, simplified with loopholes eliminated... every last person pays the same X% on every last dollar earned.... THAT is fair share

Yes we do tax on what we have earned, with the exception of all the tax deductions we can take if itemizing verses filing the short form of which 60% of Americans use.

I contend that the reason those with alot of wealth get to gather and accumilate their wealth to a greater degree than those without the money for savings or investments, are tax laws that give them the opportunity to defer their taxes or shelter their money from any taxes....municiple bonds, holding alot of stock, real estate investments, or moving your corps money/head quarters over seas.

Care

 

[editec]

yes, the bottom 50% income earners pay only 3.5 percent of the income tax bill.


however, the bottom 50% only own/earn 2.5% of the wealth in this country.

the top 1% income earner individuals, own/earn 33% of all the wealth in this country...

that's a pretty huge disparity in wealth owned....whose gap has only grown larger.

I agree our income taxes are way too complicated and need simplifying, but i do not believe the wealthiest are paying too much or our poorest are paying too little of the income tax burden....based on their share of this country's individual wealth.


http://www.tolerance.org/images/teach/activities/tt_wealth_tables.pdf

care

Care.. make sure you separate wealth and earnings.. we tax on earnings/income... not on what you have saved

And since we tax on earnings... and we are supposed to be a country based on equality... as stated SO many times... we need a 1 rate system, simplified with loopholes eliminated... every last person pays the same X% on every last dollar earned.... THAT is fair share

Yes we do tax on what we have earned, with the exception of all the tax deductions we can take if itemizing verses filing the short form of which 60% of Americans use.

I contend that the reason those with alot of wealth get to gather and accumilate their wealth to a greater degree than those without the money for savings or investments, are tax laws that give them the opportunity to defer their taxes or shelter their money from any taxes....municiple bonds, holding alot of stock, real estate investments, or moving your corps money/head quarters over seas.

Care

Well those reasons and the fact that they actually make enough money to reinvest it, of course.

And why do they make so much more than their workers who are the people who are actually producing the wealth?

Because they can get away with it, that's why.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes and when we do who will pay for you?????

Hey Maple, who has the lowest taxes in the developing world, Ireland?

 

[Iriemon]

he won't debate, but will insult me to take a pill.....

Originally Posted by Iriemon

Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.

oh look, the hypocrite is still running from the debate because i called him a moron for not knowing the difference between a question mark and a period.

i should have said fucking moron and then that would have been adult conversation.....as he has no problem calling other a fucking moron, but whines when i call him a moron

DiveCon called me a fucking moron becaue I said CNSNews had been initially called Conservative News Service. I proved he was flat assed wrong and said thanks for demostrating who the fucking moron is. For which both he and now you negged me. Did you neg rep him for calling me a fucking moron? Yeah I didn't think so.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...w-arabs-interogate-people-17.html#post1198311

Grow up and quit acting like a spoiled 3d grader. Act like an adult if you want to have a discussion or piss off. You've been following me around for that last day and a half neg repping me and writing whiny posts like this one in your little tantrum.

There's a lot of smart people here too but what a bunch of freaking babies are on this board. That's the worst thing about it.