US Pacific Command Advises Against F-22 Sales to Japan

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    This, in my opinion is a mistake. The Japanese are among the top three US allies on the planet and America should make the F-22 available to them. Japan is threatened by an ever increasing Chinese military budget and capability. America should make it clear that if its allies need air superiority, they will get it. Australia has also requested access to the F-22, and the US has turned them down. America sold its then current best fighter to Japan, the F-15. We also sold our then best fighter-bomber, the F-111, to the Australians. Both these allies should get the current best fighter, the F-22. Further, since each F-22 costs about $130 million (more if you include R&D), a higher production run that includes Japanese and Australian planes will lower the per unit cost. If in a future conflict American pilots are flying with their Japanese and Australian counterparts, no doubt they would prefer to have additional F-22s at their wing, as opposed to some less capable jet.

     
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    Can not sell them to anyone anyway. Or didn't you catch the legal bar to selling them?

    I want us to support Japan and our good allies also, but do not think cutting edge technology is necassary for that. There are some that claim the 22 and the 35 are not even needed. Of course those people probably thought a tank was a bad idea in the 30's as well.
     
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    Congress could get around the F-22 sales ban (imposed back when we thought we could afford 400+ aircraft, now we'll be lucky to get 120). I think that Japan and Australia are allies that deserve the best equipment to defend themselves and help defend the Pacific. Japan and Australia are maritime nations and the single engine F-35 is as bad an idea for them as it is for the US Navy. The Navy version of the F-35 should be ditched in favor of a "navalized" version of the F-22, a far more advanced warplane than the F-35 will ever be.
     
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    It is stupid to block Japan (and Australia) from participation in the F-22 program. Economically and strategically the Japanese are the most important US ally. We have already let Japan purchase F-4s and F-15s when they were state-of-the-art. Now we are blocking our most important ally from updating to the F-22 that will deliver air superiority in any conflict with China? Potential conflict that will include America. It makes no sense. We are forcing Japan to look at purchasing EADS' Eurofighter. In the future, if American pilots go into combat with Japanese at their wing, they will look over and see a Eurofighter rather than another F-22? Crazy. Certain elements of the US defense industry with which I am familiar are hoping that Japan will purchase the less capable F-35, a single engine jet. No maritime nation such as Japan wants their primary fighter to be single engine. They want, need, and will pay big money for the F-22. Give it to them.

     

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