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Ummmmm... preventing the adherents of a potentially lethal and nihilistic ideology from carving-out a nation-state of their own from which to threaten us or our descendants, in the coming years, once they've consolidated and expanded their holdings, and grown strong enough to reach out and strike on a substantial scale?... 'An ounce of prevention...' ?If we delay long enough Syria and Iraq may solve this themselves. What's the hurry ?
Whatever are you babbling about? And who-the-hell peed in your Cheerios this morning, eh?How many tanks ? How many Planes ?I have no idea, nor do I pretend to have a crystal ball to inform us of such things. Why do you ask?That's easily remedied, once sufficient intel and research have been undertaken.
One then applies strategy and tactics and assets to match the goals associated with such an intervention.
I am provisionally on-board with the idea of active military intervention but the devil is in the details.
Once we define the element(s) and territory(ies) to be impacted, we can then begin to narrow things down, in order to devise suitable goals, from which all else follows, yes?
Who's your foreign policy advisor, the tooth fairy?
Too late....Don't even bother replying...
What jingoism to you see at work here?...I'm not responding to your jingoistic fairy-tale nonsense...
Keep at it... you'll find that the effort pays off....I'm just playing around with this "nested quote" business to see if I can get any control over it.
Ummmmm... preventing the adherents of a potentially lethal and nihilistic ideology from carving-out a nation-state of their own from which to threaten us or our descendants, in the coming years, once they've consolidated and expanded their holdings, and grown strong enough to reach out and strike on a substantial scale?... 'An ounce of prevention...' ?If we delay long enough Syria and Iraq may solve this themselves. What's the hurry ?
That boat sailed a long time ago, as Bush fucked it all up and Obama has been not able to repair it.
Heavy air strikes only and let the Arab nations that hate ISIS carry the ground battle.
No exit strategy its time for Conquest.We can beat ISIS with R&D funds...
I'll take the US military, if operations are planned, over any other force on earth.
What's you exit strategy ?
Yeah. Everybody is war weary. Oh yeah. Well, that's been the popular thought for a few years now (even though there's been less deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan over 13 years, than a single World War II battle). Well, I'm afraid to say folks, that little notion has very quickly gone out of style. As they used to say in college, "form follows function" Well, the function now has changed from "Bush just wants to get oil", and "Obama will get us out of there", to "fight them there now, or fight them here very soon." Every national security expert agrees that ISIS fully intends to attack the US, once it accomplishes it's goals in the Middle East. Looking at all the relevant variables, it's hard to make the case that they couldn't attack here, and impose massive genocide + massive structural damage. Guess what folks > The "war weary" era is now over.
ISIS has tons of money (to purchase bombs, nukes, biological weapons, gas, and bribe traitors). On top of that, the "Open Target" (name of the book that former Homeland Security Inspector General, Clark Kent Ervin wrote a few years ago) hasn't gotten much less open, since Ervin wrote that book. Have the ports gotten better since Lou Dobbs exposed their vulnerable status? (5% of shipping containers being inspected) Are water treatment plants (containing Chlorine tanks) any better secured than they have been (with a lone unarmed, security guard). Do all citizens have gas masks ? Are all streets surveilled with street camera/recorders ? Do we even come close to the level of security that is practiced routinely in Israel ?
Many more questions than these could be asked, and all with the same qualitative result. That we in America, are not well prepared for a well-organized, well-financed military force, coming here and attacking us, with 2014 methodology.
Conclusion ? Time for Obama to get past the 2007 notion of removing troops from the Middle East and "no boots on the ground" which got him elected in 2008, and get up to speed. This is 2014. There is a real threat to America talking place before our eyes, and this is no time to play political games, or cling to outdated mantras. Obama's "no boots on the ground" is as dead as a doornail. The US needs to go after ISIS in Iraq, in Syria, and wherever they are, and obliterate them, and we need to do it with whatever it takes, and it looks that that includes ground troops, and we need to do it NOW.
The governments of Iraq and Syria are failing to beat ISIS and ISIS is only growing bigger and bigger. They kidnap UN troops and threaten the West in public.Syria and Iraq are already hitting this common enemy. They don't even HAVE an air force and their armor is taking hits. It's not like there is a munitions plant in the area that's going to rearm them. I've very skeptical of those who are in awe of this upstart group of radicals with knives. The media can't seem to wait until they can get another gory war picture to flash on the airways.
Turkey is a member of NATO. If they are threatened we are required to help.Yeah. Everybody is war weary. Oh yeah. Well, that's been the popular thought for a few years now (even though there's been less deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan over 13 years, than a single World War II battle). Well, I'm afraid to say folks, that little notion has very quickly gone out of style. As they used to say in college, "form follows function" Well, the function now has changed from "Bush just wants to get oil", and "Obama will get us out of there", to "fight them there now, or fight them here very soon." Every national security expert agrees that ISIS fully intends to attack the US, once it accomplishes it's goals in the Middle East. Looking at all the relevant variables, it's hard to make the case that they couldn't attack here, and impose massive genocide + massive structural damage. Guess what folks > The "war weary" era is now over.
ISIS has tons of money (to purchase bombs, nukes, biological weapons, gas, and bribe traitors). On top of that, the "Open Target" (name of the book that former Homeland Security Inspector General, Clark Kent Ervin wrote a few years ago) hasn't gotten much less open, since Ervin wrote that book. Have the ports gotten better since Lou Dobbs exposed their vulnerable status? (5% of shipping containers being inspected) Are water treatment plants (containing Chlorine tanks) any better secured than they have been (with a lone unarmed, security guard). Do all citizens have gas masks ? Are all streets surveilled with street camera/recorders ? Do we even come close to the level of security that is practiced routinely in Israel ?
Many more questions than these could be asked, and all with the same qualitative result. That we in America, are not well prepared for a well-organized, well-financed military force, coming here and attacking us, with 2014 methodology.
Conclusion ? Time for Obama to get past the 2007 notion of removing troops from the Middle East and "no boots on the ground" which got him elected in 2008, and get up to speed. This is 2014. There is a real threat to America talking place before our eyes, and this is no time to play political games, or cling to outdated mantras. Obama's "no boots on the ground" is as dead as a doornail. The US needs to go after ISIS in Iraq, in Syria, and wherever they are, and obliterate them, and we need to do it with whatever it takes, and it looks that that includes ground troops, and we need to do it NOW.
When will you be signing up to go? You could probably go join the Iraqi army and give them a hand.
It's not our fight. They are a threat to Turkey - let Erdogan send in his army. ISIS would be gone in a week.
Or let the Saudis do some bombing runs with the F-16s that we sold them.
Or the Egyptians with the F-16s we sold them.
Or the Jordanians, with the F-16s we sold them.
Get it?
The governments of Iraq and Syria are failing to beat ISIS and ISIS is only growing bigger and bigger. They kidnap UN troops and threaten the West in public.Syria and Iraq are already hitting this common enemy. They don't even HAVE an air force and their armor is taking hits. It's not like there is a munitions plant in the area that's going to rearm them. I've very skeptical of those who are in awe of this upstart group of radicals with knives. The media can't seem to wait until they can get another gory war picture to flash on the airways.
The only way to stop this scum is by sending US troops.
True, if they are attacked within their borders. I'm suggesting that Türkiye send troops to help the Kurds fight ISIS.Turkey is a member of NATO. If they are threatened we are required to help.When will you be signing up to go? You could probably go join the Iraqi army and give them a hand.
It's not our fight. They are a threat to Turkey - let Erdogan send in his army. ISIS would be gone in a week.
Or let the Saudis do some bombing runs with the F-16s that we sold them.
Or the Egyptians with the F-16s we sold them.
Or the Jordanians, with the F-16s we sold them.
Get it?
That boat sailed a long time ago, as Bush fucked it all up and Obama has been not able to repair it.
Heavy air strikes only and let the Arab nations that hate ISIS carry the ground battle.
Oh shut the fuck up. This is what I mean about you childish lefties. The conversation was a good back and forth with people stating valid concerns until you show up to make a statement so black and white and childish that even a 5 yr old could see you have no interest in debate.
She's a nuisance troll.That boat sailed a long time ago, as Bush fucked it all up and Obama has been not able to repair it.
Heavy air strikes only and let the Arab nations that hate ISIS carry the ground battle.
Oh shut the fuck up. This is what I mean about you childish lefties. The conversation was a good back and forth with people stating valid concerns until you show up to make a statement so black and white and childish that even a 5 yr old could see you have no interest in debate.
EconChick is merely emoting again. The USA cannot again get in the ME because of Bush and Obama, other than heavy airstrikes. The American peoples' opinion will not permit it. You have no interest in common sense, only your unbalanced feelings.
That boat sailed a long time ago, as Bush fucked it all up and Obama has been not able to repair it.
Heavy air strikes only and let the Arab nations that hate ISIS carry the ground battle.
Oh shut the fuck up. This is what I mean about you childish lefties. The conversation was a good back and forth with people stating valid concerns until you show up to make a statement so black and white and childish that even a 5 yr old could see you have no interest in debate.
EconChick is merely emoting again. The USA cannot again get in the ME because of Bush and Obama, other than heavy airstrikes. The American peoples' opinion will not permit it. You have no interest in common sense, only your unbalanced feelings.
Yeah. Everybody is war weary. Oh yeah. Well, that's been the popular thought for a few years now (even though there's been less deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan over 13 years, than a single World War II battle). Well, I'm afraid to say folks, that little notion has very quickly gone out of style. As they used to say in college, "form follows function" Well, the function now has changed from "Bush just wants to get oil", and "Obama will get us out of there", to "fight them there now, or fight them here very soon." Every national security expert agrees that ISIS fully intends to attack the US, once it accomplishes it's goals in the Middle East. Looking at all the relevant variables, it's hard to make the case that they couldn't attack here, and impose massive genocide + massive structural damage. Guess what folks > The "war weary" era is now over.
ISIS has tons of money (to purchase bombs, nukes, biological weapons, gas, and bribe traitors). On top of that, the "Open Target" (name of the book that former Homeland Security Inspector General, Clark Kent Ervin wrote a few years ago) hasn't gotten much less open, since Ervin wrote that book. Have the ports gotten better since Lou Dobbs exposed their vulnerable status? (5% of shipping containers being inspected) Are water treatment plants (containing Chlorine tanks) any better secured than they have been (with a lone unarmed, security guard). Do all citizens have gas masks ? Are all streets surveilled with street camera/recorders ? Do we even come close to the level of security that is practiced routinely in Israel ?
Many more questions than these could be asked, and all with the same qualitative result. That we in America, are not well prepared for a well-organized, well-financed military force, coming here and attacking us, with 2014 methodology.
Conclusion ? Time for Obama to get past the 2007 notion of removing troops from the Middle East and "no boots on the ground" which got him elected in 2008, and get up to speed. This is 2014. There is a real threat to America talking place before our eyes, and this is no time to play political games, or cling to outdated mantras. Obama's "no boots on the ground" is as dead as a doornail. The US needs to go after ISIS in Iraq, in Syria, and wherever they are, and obliterate them, and we need to do it with whatever it takes, and it looks that that includes ground troops, and we need to do it NOW.
I hope we are not "war weary" because the problem isn't ISIS. Think about it. The Taliban,Hamas,Boko Haram,ISIS,Al Qaeda,the Muslim Brotherhood,Islamic Jihad, you guys getting the big picture yet? We are not at war with individual groups, we are at war with Islam itself. This includes so called moderate Muslims. Sure they may not agree with the method used but they agree with the eventual outcome. In Islam there is only one law that should ever rule and that's the law of allah. Who are you to not follow the law of allah? This is why you don't see Moderates protesting the actions of their violent brethren, because they believe in the outcome of their actions and they don't have to get their hands dirty. They just sit back and let ISIS do it for them. This war will only end if either we wipe Islam off the face of the earth or they convert every last one of us whether we want to or not. Then the new war will be over who's Shite or Sunni because you have to be the right type of muslim and apparently they don't agree with that either.Yeah. Everybody is war weary. Oh yeah. Well, that's been the popular thought for a few years now (even though there's been less deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan over 13 years, than a single World War II battle). Well, I'm afraid to say folks, that little notion has very quickly gone out of style. As they used to say in college, "form follows function" Well, the function now has changed from "Bush just wants to get oil", and "Obama will get us out of there", to "fight them there now, or fight them here very soon." Every national security expert agrees that ISIS fully intends to attack the US, once it accomplishes it's goals in the Middle East. Looking at all the relevant variables, it's hard to make the case that they couldn't attack here, and impose massive genocide + massive structural damage. Guess what folks > The "war weary" era is now over.
ISIS has tons of money (to purchase bombs, nukes, biological weapons, gas, and bribe traitors). On top of that, the "Open Target" (name of the book that former Homeland Security Inspector General, Clark Kent Ervin wrote a few years ago) hasn't gotten much less open, since Ervin wrote that book. Have the ports gotten better since Lou Dobbs exposed their vulnerable status? (5% of shipping containers being inspected) Are water treatment plants (containing Chlorine tanks) any better secured than they have been (with a lone unarmed, security guard). Do all citizens have gas masks ? Are all streets surveilled with street camera/recorders ? Do we even come close to the level of security that is practiced routinely in Israel ?
Many more questions than these could be asked, and all with the same qualitative result. That we in America, are not well prepared for a well-organized, well-financed military force, coming here and attacking us, with 2014 methodology.
Conclusion ? Time for Obama to get past the 2007 notion of removing troops from the Middle East and "no boots on the ground" which got him elected in 2008, and get up to speed. This is 2014. There is a real threat to America talking place before our eyes, and this is no time to play political games, or cling to outdated mantras. Obama's "no boots on the ground" is as dead as a doornail. The US needs to go after ISIS in Iraq, in Syria, and wherever they are, and obliterate them, and we need to do it with whatever it takes, and it looks that that includes ground troops, and we need to do it NOW.
