US Military makes the US an empire.

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    It’s due to an understanding of what the term actually means, rather than emoting.

    The “isolation” thing seems to be a discussion you are having with someone else.
     
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    My point was that the US government can't do to it's people what other countries can do to theirs. You wont necessarily see that on our own soil. The reasons behind regime changes have nothing to do with the people of that country. Pick a disenfranchised group that agrees with the business interests and back it. The people in the US are not about to be supportive of out and out saying something like........the market over there needs to let Nestle in. It's not going to happen. But, if you send in a bunch of human rights activists to support that disenfranchised group and send filmed interviews and "personal interest" stories of the group you want in power then you get the people to support it.

    We have been screwing with Venezuela since before 2006 hard core. They aren't a threat.
     
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    Venezuela screwed itself up, it didn't need our help. They had plenty of other markets for their Oil. We didn't make them nationalize industries, or try end runs around their own Constitution.

    The only thing that can really be "blamed" on us is our resurgent Oil industry, which lowered overall global crude prices.
     
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    Wanted to make them pay for nationalizing their industries. That's telling.
     
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    That's only fair. Nationalizing does imply paying. Confiscating implies taking.

    If a US company invested in a company that was to be nationalized, they expect and should expect compensation.
     
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    Hateful Canadian?
     
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    Venezuela had no problem selling to China. Companies were compensated fairly up until 2008. Then Exxon and Conoco slammed Venezuela with lawsuits. Even so, none of that makes Venezuela a "national security threat". It doesn't rise to that level.
     
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    That’s funny. Give me a bit to compose myself, as I am laughing too much.
     
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    And Venezuela was rightly sued.

    They are a threat because of their stated policies and viewpoints, and their destabilizing effect on the region.

    If the US parks a CBG in the Med off of Spain or Italy, they look forward to the shore leaves, we do the same to Venezuela they will cry to the UN and anyone else that will listen.
    That's the difference between a threat and not a threat.
     
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    Just so you know.....

    Americas War Machine Death Toll overall since 1800........45,400,000
    Liberals Death Toll on the Unborn Children since 2000.....148,900,000

    It's nice to have your priorities straight
     

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