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Try to get your head out of the isolationist sand long enough to actually read the post that started this thread, Paulite. What am I saying? According to Ron Paul we brought the war on ourselves. That's all we need to know. The report of Al Qaeda's reconstitution in NW Pakistan is not from me, it is from the GAO. I suppose they are just "perpetuating the fear." Here, I'll get the quote for you: "However, GAO found broad agreement, as documented in the National Intelligence Estimate, State, and embassy documents, as well as Defense officials in Pakistan, that Al Qaeda had regenerated its ability to attack the United States and had succeeded in establishing a safe haven in Pakistan's FATA." U.S. GAO - Summary. Now let's see your investigation that refutes the GAO's perpetuation of fear. Of course you will be simultaneously refuting the NIE and the State Department. Have your own independent intelligence agency, do you? We are eager for your report.
Try to get your head out of the isolationist sand long enough to actually read the post that started this thread, Paulite. What am I saying? According to Ron Paul we brought the war on ourselves. That's all we need to know. The report of Al Qaeda's reconstitution in NW Pakistan is not from me, it is from the GAO. I suppose they are just "perpetuating the fear." Here, I'll get the quote for you: "However, GAO found broad agreement, as documented in the National Intelligence Estimate, State, and embassy documents, as well as Defense officials in Pakistan, that Al Qaeda had regenerated its ability to attack the United States and had succeeded in establishing a safe haven in Pakistan's FATA." U.S. GAO - Summary. Now let's see your investigation that refutes the GAO's perpetuation of fear. Of course you will be simultaneously refuting the NIE and the State Department. Have your own independent intelligence agency, do you? We are eager for your report.
You really should do a little more reading....
CNN reported that T. Boone Pickens is now sinking billions into a wind farm near Abilene, TX, which is expected to become the biggest such operation in the world. He has bought 667 turbines from General Electric.
Upon completion in seven years, the project is expected to include more than 2,500 turbines and to produce enough electricity to power 1.3 million homes, Pickens said.
It will be about $8 billion in wind turbines and $2 billion in transmission (lines). It will probably be over $10 billion, Pickens told CNBC.
I never said it was from you. But you posting it perpetuates the fear, nonetheless. Your desires to conquer the Islamic world because they managed to attack us during a time when they were, for all intents and purposes being ALLOWED to plot against us via shoddy investigations and intelligence, have isolated us far more than pulling unnecessary troops out of countries we have no further necessity to be in EVER will. You love the spin of the word "isolationist". It seems to make you feel proud as though you've uttered a cuss word in front of your mom without her realizing it.
The fact is, we've been hearing about Al-qaeda's "reconstitution" in Pakistan for, what, at least 6 years now since they out-smarted us in Tora Bora before we retreated and "appeased" them and the Pakistani government? You know, the government who only a few months prior, we were shoving a gun barrell down their throats with ultimatums for cooperation right after 9/11 happened?
I mean, it's already been a year since Chertoff broke the news to us that Al-qaeda is probably stronger now than before 9/11. But just the other day in London, he's now apparently back-peddling and downplaying their abilities to suggest that they probably don't even have a current or near term future ability to acquire and use a nuclear weapon. I'll get a link if you'd like, but I'm sure you can google Chertoff-London and find an abundance of links on your own.
Right now, perhaps you ought to keep focused on the current situation in Iraq. It's much more important for us to be THERE right now, because we started it so now we gotta finish it, right?
How about this..
How about we mobilize our entire military, reinstate the draft, and simultaneously invade Syria, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea. A lot will die, but hey, the ends justify the means, eh Onedomino? If the ensuing US casualties are too much to bear, we can always just lob some nukes instead and take care of it real quick like. I'm sure China and Russia won't mind a bit. Shit, it would probably just go to show them we don't fuck around over here in the motherland.
'Fuck outta here with this "Paulite"/"Isolationist" bullshit. That shit's been old and tired since at LEAST February 5th. Get some new fucking material, Blitzer.
Ah .. the argument of the elitist ... *I* should do some more reading. And of course, I should read what YOU think I should, and just accept it as fact?
I did not question nor doubt what your boy is doing. I questioned the method he is pursuing.
I didn't say it wouldn't work, either. I said it is not efficient and it is reliant on the weather to produce.
Oh ... nd perhaps you would like to borrow one of the several books on eletrical theory I have so YOU can do a little more reading? Just a thought.
There is no question of theory or method. The reality is already here. The Danes already get 20% of their total energy from wind power. Are the Danes smarter than us?
There is a wind corridor that runs from Texas to the Canadian border. There is a solar corridor that runs from Texas to California. The energy is there. It will never run out. And it is 100% made in America.
To quote Buckminster Fuller, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."
Quite a lot of spin you got going here, paulitics. What it boils down to is stick your head in the sand and pretending the bad guy isn't standing behind you ready to shoot your ass off doesn't make him go away, nor does it keep him from shooting.
How about we just pull out of Afghanistan and just let the Taliban have it back? That sure makes a lot of sense.
I'm not sure what was spin in that. I stated facts, I just chose not to cite them with links. The typing was long enough. I can and will post links to back up anything I said. if required. I thought at this point it was common knowledge though.
My bottom line is, we can't afford to maintain this military empire we have. Would I like to just see the problem eradicated in Pakistan? SURE. But how are we going to pull it off? How are we going to keep paying for all of these escapades? Where is the money coming from? It's being borrowed and printed. Otherwise, we don't have any money. We're paying high oil prices right now because we've devalued our Dollar doing EXACTLY THIS.
Either no one seems to recognize or no one seems to care.
My problem is in how these stories are being used as propaganda to drum up support for war. Everyone KNOWS al-qaeda is hiding out in Pakistan. We've been hearing about it since Tora Bora. We fucked that up just like we fucked Iraq up. How are the world's most powerful and elite military and intelligence units continually being swindled by a bunch of cavemen (and i'll admit that in the red is spin, but i think you know what I mean)? Pakistan plays ball now with us, so we don't see a need to upset that relationship by intervening in their country. We only do that to countries who dare step out of line and threaten our hegemony.
I shouldn't feel like just because I'm an American, I must agree with every one of these decisions, because if I don't, I might be construed as un-patriotic. That's bullshit.
We created that mess in Pakistan. We propped up Musharaff, and now his government is all we can count on to keep order and not allow their nuclear arsenal to come into the hands of enemies. But we're faced with a conundrum. Musharaff's government, who we CREATED, now doesn't want to let us finish the job we started 6 years ago. They're aiding and abetting our known enemies, and we're LETTING them because Musharaff plays ball economically.
Something's gotta give. Either Musharaff allows us to deploy an acute operation into the area where joint intelligence seems to think the problem is, or we just once again invade a country and replace a regime we created, with the potential backlash of an Iraq-style quagmire where, now, that country's nuclear arsenal could be involved.
Otherwise, we're just going to have to keep reading these propaganda pieces meant to do nothing more than scare people into accepting perpetual world war in the name of terrorism.
Denmark is located exactly WHERE geographically? And is how big in comparison to the US?
Neither that wind nor sun corridor are guaranteed. As recently as the past few years we had a RAIN corridor.
My point in regard to my previous comment concerning corn was not to the corn itself; rather, in the fact that you've apparently been sold something and are sticking to it no matter what.
And yes, it IS a matter of theory. You can't produce enough energy to power this nation if you put a soalr panel on every house and a windmill in every yard. None of which addresses the fact that we still use the internal combustion engine that runs on fossil fuels.
I have ZERO problem with becoming independent from foreign energy sources and in fact have been quite vocal on the topic. I'm not for cutting our own throats to do it. Even Custer thought he had a plan.
$700 billion dollars and counting....
What if instead of wasting $700 billion dollars on a hole in the desert, we had spent that money on a project for American Energy Independence? The technology is there. The Danes and the Israelis already get 20% of their energy from solar and wind power. Why can't we? Because we don't have any leadership, that's why. AQ is a minor threat that was blown out of proportion by Bush-Cheney. A bunch of guys in a cave in Afganistan with no army, no navy, and no air force are not a threat to a country of 300 million people. We need new leadership and a new direction in America.
Tell that to the families of 2,923 innocent American civilians that were massacred by two planes....
Where is Denmark? WTF? Where is Israel? What difference does that make?
We are falling behind in the most important industry of the 21st century, and all you can say is "we can't do it." Bullsh*t. IT IS ALREADY BEING DONE by countries that have better leadership than we do. Fortunately Nero will be out of office on Jan. 20, 2009, and we can begin to point America in the right direction again.
which didn't occur at the hand of Iraquis.
We are in a political war which will not be won militarily. This is the reason that Bush-Cheney have failed. Bush is the best recruiter Al Quaeda ever had.
There is no question of theory or method. The reality is already here. The Danes already get 20% of their total energy from wind power. Are the Danes smarter than us?
There is a wind corridor that runs from Texas to the Canadian border. There is a solar corridor that runs from Texas to California. The energy is there. It will never run out. And it is 100% made in America.
To quote Buckminster Fuller, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."
which didn't occur at the hand of Iraquis.
I was talking about terrorists and our presence in Afghanistan....I think. Kirk was talking about AQ and it not being a threat.
I know....
Y'all are jumping around so much, I musta lost track. lol...
We always should have focused more on Afghanistan.
Y'all are jumping around so much, I musta lost track. lol...
We always should have focused more on Afghanistan.
