US doing all they can to emphasize the personal friendship of Obama and Erdogan

ekrem

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Turkey on the Brink of Big Time
Tehran has played its economic card with Ankara by allowing the Turks to pay for Iranian oil in their own currency. Ankara's large oil import bill is thus substantially reduced and the Iranians prone to buy more Turkish goods. The Saudis, not to be outdone, have made it clear to Erdogan that if the oil sanctions against Iran really begin to bite, the Turks can count on their Saudi "brothers" to fill all their petroleum needs. Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence is bending over backwards to reestablish its once close relationship with its Turkish counterpart, and even the Americans are doing all they can to emphasize the personal friendship between President Obama and P.M. Erdogan.

The American Spectator : Turkey on the Brink of Big Time
 
Good, that Diplomacy does work independently from what the mob in Internet-Forums think.

Obama names Turkish PM Erdoğan among trusted friends

In an interview with Fareed Zakaria, the Editor-at-Large of Time magazine, Obama named Turkish PM Erdoğan, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, and British Prime Minister David Cameron among leaders that he was able to forge "bonds of trust."

INTERNATIONAL - Obama names Turkish PM Erdo

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No reason to freak-out, Grandma (syrenn).

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the likes of syrenn would throw away any intelligent deplomacy to spit on our first black president
 
If a future US President doesn't want friendship, that's not really our problem.
Our influence-zone is known, it is not as if Turkey wants to have influence in the Caribic or in Central-America and therefore depends on US's cooperation.

Why would our leaders make photo-ops with someone like Bush junior?
Friendship helps, but not everyone is worthy of it.
 
So you think Erdogan being friends with Obama helps? Obama is not exactly well liked right now chump.

Oh really ?

by whom?

the right wing blatherers in this country.

Do you know how the world views them?

HAHAHA alot of people outside the US look at Americans as one people, I have been outside the country many times and I never heard one person say "Oh I hate American republicans but those libs are ok", you don't know what you are talking about and you have probably never even been outside the limits of your small podunk town.
 
If a future US President doesn't want friendship, that's not really our problem.
Our influence-zone is known, it is not as if Turkey wants to have influence in the Caribic or in Central-America and therefore depends on US's cooperation.

Why would our leaders make photo-ops with someone like Bush junior?
Friendship helps, but not everyone is worthy of it.

Take it easy when you talk to me.

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Take it easy when you talk to me.

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The picture was the USA 20-30 years ago, when it wasn't accumulating the amounts of debt it is doing now. USA will make deficits of $ 1.2 Trillion this year.

Whole world knows, that time of military-conflicts for the USA is ending. Maybe here and there the USA might slap a 3rd world-country where the operational costs don't exceed a certain amount of money, but something like Vietnam, Korea or Iraq the USA can't pull-off anymore without serious consequences at home on the financial/economic front.

Soon you'll realize this, too. Perceptions in brain outdated by reality don't change easily. You'll have your chance to adapt to reality by 2016, when China will land humans on Moon.
 
Take it easy when you talk to me.

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The picture was the USA 20-30 years ago, when it wasn't accumulating the amounts of debt it is doing now. USA will make deficits of $ 1.2 Trillion this year.

Whole world knows, that time of military-conflicts for the USA is ending. Maybe here and there the USA might slap a 3rd world-country where the operational costs don't exceed a certain amount of money, but something like Vietnam, Korea or Iraq the USA can't pull-off anymore without serious consequences at home on the financial/economic front.

Soon you'll realize this, too. Perceptions in brain outdated by reality don't change easily. You'll have your chance to adapt to reality by 2016, when China will land humans on Moon.

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US criticizes 'human rights violations' in Turkey :clap2:

Unlawful killings, poor prison conditions, excessively long trials and limits on freedom of expression are among the alleged human-rights violations in Turkey that the U.S. State Department denounced in a recent report.

“Security forces committed unlawful killings; the number of arrests and prosecutions in these cases was low compared to the number of incidents, and convictions remained rare,” the State Department said late Friday in the section devoted to Turkey in its annual report on the status of human rights throughout the world.

U.S. officials also commented on the recent arrests of Turkish journalists, which came too late to be included in this report, saying they would be monitored and addressed in next year’s survey.

During the year human-rights organizations reported cases of torture, beatings and abuse by security forces. Prison conditions improved but remained poor, with overcrowding and insufficient staff training,” the State Department said in its 2010 human-rights report.

“The overly close relationship between judges and prosecutors continued to hinder the right to a fair trial. Excessively long trials were a problem. The government limited freedom of expression through the use of constitutional restrictions and numerous laws,” the State Department said.

“Press freedom declined during the year. There were limitations on Internet freedom. Courts and an independent board ordered telecommunications providers to block access to Web sites on numerous occasions,” it said in the report. “Violence against women, including honor killings and rape, remained a widespread problem.”

TURKEY - US criticizes 'human rights violations' in Turkey
 
So you think Erdogan being friends with Obama helps? Obama is not exactly well liked right now chump.

He is well liked in Turkey and Iran, though - and that helps in one way.


Interesting thread, Ekrem.

Turkey, not so well liked in the US or Europe.

US Condemns Turkey's Role In Armenian Genocide
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030403637.html


In an annual report released on Thursday, the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR), the top judicial body to rule on human rights violations in Europe, found that Turkey is by far the worst violator of human rights among the 47 signatory states of the European Convention on Human Rights.
Human rights violations in Turkey « European Court of Human Rights
 
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