US Democrats are to the Left of Communists

The Chinese are more capitalist than anything these days.
 
Go visit 85% of the country. Not so much. Or complain about your pay or work conditions. On the other hand, their pay IS rising and ABC says 3 million jobs are coming back here...
 
Former Totalitarian nations are moving closer to Freedom & Liberty while we are moving further away. There is something wrong with our nation. Since 911 our Goverment has taken so much away from us.
 
Free Enterprise does not make Communists happy, Frank. The state controls the people. Capitalism does not make people free, the Constitution and the spirit of the Declaration of Indepence make people free. Unregulated capitalism and regulated communism enslave people.

Jake, find an adult to read the 4 paragraphs I posted. You might learn something
 
Retardplicans like Frank who are far right believe anything even slightly to the left of them is far left and communist.

I know.

It's embarrassing that Communist have become happy and prosperous since their embrace of Free Enterprise, while US Democrats bitterly cling to the failure of redistribution

It is an inreresting dichotomy. The Socialists/Progressives here in America are dragging us closer & closer to Totalitarian rule while former Totalitarian nations are giving their people more freedom. What's going on in this country? It's Twilight Zone shit.

Not at all, but the libertarians want to drive us to the dictatorship of the "society of equals". Their form of communism.
 
Neither the DEMS nor the REPS exist on that childish LEFT RIGHT SCALE that so many of you partisans think describes our poltical scene.

The fact that so many people do think like you do is a testament to the power of propaganda to obfuscate reality from those who aren't willing to do the hard work it really takes to know what is going on.
 
Neither the DEMS nor the REPS exist on that childish LEFT RIGHT SCALE that so many of you partisans think describes our poltical scene.

The fact that so many people do think like you do is a testament to the power of propaganda to obfuscate reality from those who aren't willing to do the hard work it really takes to know what is going on.

Your entitled to your opinion, but the paradigm right left does work well. The issue is the silly definitions of folks like Frank.
 
Neither the DEMS nor the REPS exist on that childish LEFT RIGHT SCALE that so many of you partisans think describes our poltical scene.

The fact that so many people do think like you do is a testament to the power of propaganda to obfuscate reality from those who aren't willing to do the hard work it really takes to know what is going on.

Your entitled to your opinion, but the paradigm right left does work well. The issue is the silly definitions of folks like Frank.

"Not long ago, Vietnam was importing a million tons of rice a year. Last year it became the world's second leading rice exporter. "Same people, same land," Vietnam's director of crop production, Dr. Nguyen Tri Ngoc, told me in his Hanoi office, speaking through a translator. "Before, farmers were not really farmers. They were workers in the fields, and they worked under the supervision of the government." And the difference now? "Free markets!" he says in English."

I can't remember the last time Jake or any Liberal, talked with admiration about "Free markets" like this Communist
 
Free markets, as Frank describes them, means unregulated capitalism, the companion of libertarianism and the new bastard child of communism. None lead to freedom, democracy, or the rights of minorities.
 
No....China is not an autocracy..."Autocracy means one man possesses unlimited power and citizens have no rights

This is correct. China is not an "autocracy" and I misspoke. It is an authoritarian oligarchy, rather.

Communism is when the Government has unlimited rule.

This, however, is NOT correct. The government having unlimited rule is totalitarianism. Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state. Nazi Germany was not Communist.

If Vladimir Lenin were reincarnated in 21st-century Beijing and managed to avert his eyes from the city's glittering skyscrapers and conspicuous consumption, he would instantly recognize in the ruling Chinese Communist Party a replica of the system he designed nearly a century ago for the victors of the Bolshevik Revolution. One need only look at the party's structure to see how communist -- and Leninist -- China's political system remains.

Sure, China long ago dumped the core of the communist economic system, replacing rigid central planning with commercially minded state enterprises that coexist with a vigorous private sector. Yet for all their liberalization of the economy, Chinese leaders have been careful to keep control of the commanding heights of politics through the party's grip on the "three Ps": personnel, propaganda, and the People's Liberation Army.

If China has "dumped the core of the Communist economic system," that means China IS NOT COMMUNIST. You cannot have a Communist country without a socialist economy; that's absurd. You can have an authoritarian, undemocratic state in which there are no real election, no free press, no personal liberty, etc. but it will NOT be Communist.

Communism and totalitarianism are not synonyms.

Definition of Oligarchy....

1.a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2.a state or organizationso ruled.
3.the persons or class so ruling.

you say china is now an "authoritarian oligarchy"?......heck....most Communist states fit that description...

seems you are hung up on china's maoism.....if that were true China would have ceased to be a Communist state once Mao died back in 1976....and i suppose there are many purists like you who would agree...

...yet even Lenin himself believed in state CAPITALISM....ever heard of his "New Economic Policy"....? i believe china today is just an updated expanded version of this...with The Party still in power....

The New Economic Policy (NEP) was an economic policy proposed by Vladimir Lenin, who called it state capitalism. Allowing some private ventures, the NEP allowed small animal businesses or smoke shops, for instance, to reopen for private profit while the state continued to control banks, foreign trade, and large industries.[1] It was officially decided in the course of the 10th Congress of the All-Russian Communist Party. It was promulgated by decree on 21 March 1921, "On the Replacement of Prodrazvyorstka by Prodnalog" (i.e., on the replacement of foodstuffs requisitions by fixed foodstuffs tax). In essence, the decree required the farmers to give the government a specified amount of raw agricultural product as a tax in kind.[2] Further decrees refined the policy and expanded it to include some industries. The New Economic Policy was replaced by Stalin's First Five-Year Plan in 1928.

New Economic Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China....with Party permission.... is moving toward capitalism....that much is obvious....but not necessarily toward democracy.....the two do not necessarily go hand in hand....
 

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