US Democrats are to the Left of Communists

[G.T.]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Later in Hanoi, I tell Ngoc all about my visit to Baria-Vungtau province. When does a farmer like Thanh, I ask him, become too much of a capitalist for the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Ngoc beams. "No limit!" he says. Again in English."

In the USA, Democrats would protest in front of Thanh's house for being a 1%'er

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In terms of state control we are European socialist and our educational system is Marxist dictatorship

Absolute bollox. We are much further away from "European socialist" than we were in the 1960s. Our top marginal tax rate has gone from 91% down to 35%. We've turned from staunch government support for labor unions to government giving wrist-slaps to companies using illegal methods of union suppression. We've repealed the important financial regulations that were designed to prevent what happened in 2008 -- which is, of course, why that DID happen in 2008.

You trying to say we should go even further down that road by comparing us to the Chinese or Vietnamese on the grounds that they used to be Communist is nothing but a verbal shell game.

All of FDR's Labor laws need to be repealed.

Every single one of them

 

[jgarden]

"Big business," in America, wants a government big enough to protect ITS best interests,

BUT

not big enough to protect the public's best interests from "big business!"

 

[Dragon]

All of FDR's Labor laws need to be repealed.

Every single one of them

See, I knew you would say something like that.

Your opinion on the rights of working people has nothing to do with your claims in the OP. You claimed that the Democratic Party as presently constituted is to the left of Communism. You supported this by disingenuously (oh -- that means "dishonestly," sorry for the big word -- or perhaps I should just say, "Liar, liar, pants on fire!") comparing U.S. economic policy to that of China and Vietnam, without acknowledging that those countries are no longer Communist except in name, or that the real dynamic is that they have moved further to the right than we have.

Never mind whether you think all labor laws should be repealed and we should go back to the 16-hour day, no benefits, no safety regulations, workers dying on the job in droves while their families live in squalor.

Are you now prepared to retract the BALD-FACED LIE that you put forth in the first post on this thread?

Do you have ANY intellectual integrity whatsoever? Have you at last no sense of decency, sir?

 

[LoneLaugher]

It sure looks that way. I'll never understand why so many Americans want to be Big Government slaves. Is it all about the possible Freebies? Or is it a result of many years of Big Government media propaganda? It seems like so many Americans are raised on Big Government propaganda. They don't seem to know any better. I guess it starts in early childhood for them. I'm actually amazed there are any real Conservatives left. They have been so thoroughly ostracized by Big Mainstream Media. Man,just slow down America. Why such a rush to absolute Big Government domination?

You make these claims often. Will you ever take the time to support them?

Americans are not desirous of becoming big government slaves.
What freebies are you referring to?
There is no big government media propoganda.

 

[freedombecki]

and the way chinese treat their women is definately closer to republicans.......

Like trusted partners who treat us with sensitivity and love? That's how my wonderful Republican husband treats me and always has.

 

[JakeStarkey]

In terms of state control we are European socialist and our educational system is Marxist dictatorship

Absolute bollox. We are much further away from "European socialist" than we were in the 1960s. Our top marginal tax rate has gone from 91% down to 35%. We've turned from staunch government support for labor unions to government giving wrist-slaps to companies using illegal methods of union suppression. We've repealed the important financial regulations that were designed to prevent what happened in 2008 -- which is, of course, why that DID happen in 2008.

You trying to say we should go even further down that road by comparing us to the Chinese or Vietnamese on the grounds that they used to be Communist is nothing but a verbal shell game.

Frank is completely unhinged, Dragon: he is here for fun not seriousness.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

See, I knew you would say something like that.

Your opinion on the rights of working people has nothing to do with your claims in the OP. You claimed that the Democratic Party as presently constituted is to the left of Communism. You supported this by disingenuously (oh -- that means "dishonestly," sorry for the big word -- or perhaps I should just say, "Liar, liar, pants on fire!") comparing U.S. economic policy to that of China and Vietnam, without acknowledging that those countries are no longer Communist except in name, or that the real dynamic is that they have moved further to the right than we have.

Never mind whether you think all labor laws should be repealed and we should go back to the 16-hour day, no benefits, no safety regulations, workers dying on the job in droves while their families live in squalor.

Are you now prepared to retract the BALD-FACED LIE that you put forth in the first post on this thread?

Do you have ANY intellectual integrity whatsoever? Have you at last no sense of decency, sir?

When faced with any change or reform away from failed Socialist policies, liberals immediately resort to Lying and hysterical Liberal propaganda.

Vietnam and China have openly embraced free markets and free enterprise and the rising tide is lifting all boats, that is the direction Conservatives want to take America

 

[JakeStarkey]

When faced with any change or reform away from failed Socialist policies, liberals immediately resort to Lying and hysterical Liberal propaganda. Vietnam and China have openly embraced free markets and free enterprise and the rising tide is lifting all boats, that is the direction Conservatives want to take America

Frank describes his hard righty hysteria.

If he pulled his stuff in Vietnam, China, Russia, or Cuba, and tried to run business his way, he would go to the wall or to jail for twenty years.

Dr. House has and will neg rep this even though it is the truth. Tells you quite a bit of the libertarians and hard righty hysteriacs.

 

[Dragon]

[snip empty rhetoric that does not answer my question

Are you now going to retract the BALD FACED LIE that you made in the OP? Are you now going to acknowledge that Democrats are NOT to the left of Communists, that this was ABSURD HYPERBOLE and UTTERLY DISHONEST?

Do you have any intellectual integrity whatsoever? Have you, in the end, any sense of decency, sir?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank describes his hard righty hysteria.

If he pulled his stuff in Vietnam, China, Russia, or Cuba, and tried to run business his way, he would go to the wall or to jail for twenty years.

Dr. House has and will neg rep this even though it is the truth. Tells you quite a bit of the libertarians and hard righty hysteriacs.

Odd that I talked about how Liberals respond and you chimed right in

 

[CrusaderFrank]

[snip empty rhetoric that does not answer my question

Are you now going to retract the BALD FACED LIE that you made in the OP? Are you now going to acknowledge that Democrats are NOT to the left of Communists, that this was ABSURD HYPERBOLE and UTTERLY DISHONEST?

Do you have any intellectual integrity whatsoever? Have you, in the end, any sense of decency, sir?

Democrats are to the Left of Communists in Vietnam and China.

That help?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

[snip empty rhetoric that does not answer my question

Are you now going to retract the BALD FACED LIE that you made in the OP? Are you now going to acknowledge that Democrats are NOT to the left of Communists, that this was ABSURD HYPERBOLE and UTTERLY DISHONEST?

Do you have any intellectual integrity whatsoever? Have you, in the end, any sense of decency, sir?

Yeah, decency.

McCarthy challenged the loyalties of a Senate staffer and got that "Have you no sense of decency" comment and as it turns out, the staffer was actually working with a Communist spy ring

How's that for decency?

 

[Dragon]

Democrats are to the Left of Communists in Vietnam and China.

The Vietnamese and Chinese are NOT Communists.

That help?

Since you're still lying through your fucking teeth, no.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats are to the Left of Communists in Vietnam and China.

The Vietnamese and Chinese are NOT Communists.

That help?

Since you're still lying through your fucking teeth, no.

They have a Communist government but, unlike American Democrats, they have embraced the Free Market. That puts American Democrats squarely to the left of Communists.

Why is that so hard to take?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Also, if you want to do McCarthy, there's a thread for that

http://www.usmessageboard.com/revie...-of-senator-joe-mccarthy-m-stanton-evans.html

 

[Dragon]

They have a Communist government but, unlike American Democrats, they have embraced the Free Market.

If they have "embraced the free market," then they do NOT have a Communist government. Or perhaps we should call it "CINO" ("Communist In Name Only").

And you're still lying through your teeth.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They have a Communist government but, unlike American Democrats, they have embraced the Free Market.

If they have "embraced the free market," then they do NOT have a Communist government. Or perhaps we should call it "CINO" ("Communist In Name Only").

And you're still lying through your teeth.

Whatever you call them, US Democrats are solidly to their Left

 

[Si modo]

The Chinese today are no more Communists, than Republicans are believers in a republic.

And American Democrats are solidly to the left of the ChiComs.

Who are not Communists. Which invalidates your whole thread.

Bullshit.

"Political parties and leaders:

Chinese Communist Party or CCP [HU Jintao]; eight registered small parties controlled by CCP"

"Government type:

Communist state"



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html