US court throws out $655 million verdict against Palestinian Authority

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination."​

Are you still pimping that lie? It is illegal to annex occupied territory. The world viewed the West Bank as occupied Palestinian territory between 1948 and 1967. Israel acquired that occupation in 1967.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

Indeed. The Hamas Charter leaves no room for negotiation.

Islamo-ideologies such as waqf know no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C"...​

Agreements between occupying powers and the occupied people are void if they do not comply to international law.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

Indeed. The Hamas Charter leaves no room for negotiation.

Islamo-ideologies such as waqf know no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

Hamas is not a part of the negotiations and have stated many times that they would abide by any agreement that was accepted by the Palestinians in a referendum.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

Indeed. The Hamas Charter leaves no room for negotiation.

Islamo-ideologies such as waqf know no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

Hamas is not a part of the negotiations and have stated many times that they would abide by any agreement that was accepted by the Palestinians in a referendum.

As the self-appointed spokesbeard for Hamas, your rhetoric needs a refresh. Hamas rules their mini caliphate in Gaza with an enormous stake in the UNRWA welfare fraud. To suggest they are not a part of any negotiations is just silly.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

And they are only fake peace talks in your fantasy world because the arab muslims calling themselves palestinians dont want peace do they. Show one example of them entering into peace talks without first demanding pre-conditions and the death of every Jew in the M.E.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination."​

Are you still pimping that lie? It is illegal to annex occupied territory. The world viewed the West Bank as occupied Palestinian territory between 1948 and 1967. Israel acquired that occupation in 1967.

Not in 1949 it wasnt, so why do you use current international laws retrospectively. How about you produce some links to your claims instead of demanding them all the time.

By the way only the islamonazi world saw the west bank as occupied territory, the rest saw it as Jewish land granted to them in 1923 under INTERNATIONAL LAW. The same law that team palestine denies exists because it destroys their whole argument. The same law that allowed a Saudi prince to become King of trans Jordan, and you see no problem with that aspect of the law.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C"...​

Agreements between occupying powers and the occupied people are void if they do not comply to international law.

So your agreements with the first nations people are null and void and you are living on stolen lands. Have you started packing yet, or is your case somehow different.
Now when did this become international law, and if it hasn't then it does not apply does it ?

 

[fanger]

The Israeli-occupied territories is a political concept, referring to the territories occupied by Israel during the Six-Day War of 1967. Originally, those territories included the Syrian Golan Heights, the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula and Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip and Jordanian-occupied West Bank. The first use of the term 'territories occupied' was in United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 following the Six-Day War in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries. From 1967 to 1982, those areas were ruled via the Israeli Military Governoratesystem (also named as Occupied Arab territories by the UN), which became abolished in 1982 as a consequence of the peace accords with Egypt. Despite the dissolution of the military government in line with Egyptian demands for normalization and partial withdrawal, Israeli-occupied territories concept has remained in use to refer to a part of all of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and Western Golan Heights; from 1998 to 2012,Palestinian territories, Occupied concept has specifically been applied to areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority (now State of Palestine) in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The International Court of Justice,[1] the UN General Assembly[2] and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power".[3] UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law."[4] The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation".[5] According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law.[6] Israeli governments have preferred the term "disputed territories" in the case of the West Bank.[7][8] Officially Israel maintains that the West Bank is disputed territory.[9]
Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).

No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.

And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
​

For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.

That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.

And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.

(COMMENT)

By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:

a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
​

Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.

But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).

Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:

1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.

2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.

3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
​

It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.

This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

...discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse...​

Of course the fake peace talks will collapse. They are designed to collapse.

Indeed. The Hamas Charter leaves no room for negotiation.

Islamo-ideologies such as waqf know no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

Hamas is not a part of the negotiations and have stated many times that they would abide by any agreement that was accepted by the Palestinians in a referendum.

And then refuse point blank to hold the referendum, making it a LIE.
The way it goes is hamas has to agree the terms first, but refuse to hold the talks until the arab muslims calling themselves palestinians have voted in favour of the outcome of the talks yet to be held. So how is that going to achieve anything other than more deprivation and hardship for the people who have been refused the right to vote by their leaders for the last 9 years

 

[Phoenall]

The Israeli-occupied territories is a political concept, referring to the territories occupied by Israel during the Six-Day War of 1967. Originally, those territories included the Syrian Golan Heights, the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula and Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip and Jordanian-occupied West Bank. The first use of the term 'territories occupied' was in United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 following the Six-Day War in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries. From 1967 to 1982, those areas were ruled via the Israeli Military Governoratesystem (also named as Occupied Arab territories by the UN), which became abolished in 1982 as a consequence of the peace accords with Egypt. Despite the dissolution of the military government in line with Egyptian demands for normalization and partial withdrawal, Israeli-occupied territories concept has remained in use to refer to a part of all of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and Western Golan Heights; from 1998 to 2012,Palestinian territories, Occupied concept has specifically been applied to areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority (now State of Palestine) in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The International Court of Justice,[1] the UN General Assembly[2] and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power".[3] UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation "an affront to international law."[4] The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation".[5] According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than four decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law.[6] Israeli governments have preferred the term "disputed territories" in the case of the West Bank.[7][8] Officially Israel maintains that the West Bank is disputed territory.[9]
Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So when did the UN get the right to give away Jewish lands to foreign illegal immigrants then. Would you accept the UN granting Israel parts of Jordan, Saudi, Egypt and Syria in the same manner.

The fact that under the terms of international law gaza is no longer occupied and is fully controlled by hamas means nothing to you as it does not make for any propaganda. As for the anti semitic Jew hater Richard Falk why was he sacked by the UN if not for his LIES and BLOOD LIBELS against the Jews.

Care to find a better source than this one that is based on LIES and islamonazi propaganda ?


Your source is an islamonazi who has been banned from wiki because of " abusively using multiple accounts. "

 

[Boston1]

Since no one really has the authority to make them pay, it really doesn't matter.

Actually Israel could take it out of the taxes, tariffs and transport fees payed by the pallies and deliver it to the victims families and plaintiffs.