US Appeals court upholds Marylands unconstitutional ban on scary guns

[12icer]

This lady didn't shoot anybody. She was arrested for something that is legal in most other parts of this country.

Can a woman get a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion in Texas, because it's legal in California? That's the argument you're giving, as a rejection of states rights.

So a state can have slaves in this country if it wants? Same argument when it goes to the high court. Either FED overrides states in all cases or it does not.

 

[Flash]

The SAFE is unreasonable and it was unreasonable to arrest somebody that obviously didn't understand the law and was just passing through.

You sound like a serial killer sympathizer. Psychopaths don't believe what they're doing is wrong. But laws aren't intended to only apply to those who fully understand them.

The lady that was arrested was not a criminal. She was a lady passing through the state. She committed no crime except what the filthy ass oppressive Liberals said she committed. Keeping arms. You know what that is, don't you? It is one of the things protected under the Bill of Rights.

Since you want to use that analogy then you would agree that crooked Hillary was a psychopath that was committing security violation crimes but didn't believe she was doing anything wrong because, well, she was a Clinton and an elite and the laws shouldn't apply to her.

 

[rich stacy]

Why cant the right to bear arms be given by GOD? ALL rights are given by God including the right of free choice. so praytell why can the right to bear arms be given to mankind at their births? No liberal bullshit will be accepted as it has all been shown as the pure fantasy of idiots.

For most of recorded history, the right to bear arms has been limited to agents of the government. There are only limited examples of it being given to the people, which would require god evoke it both recently and selectively.

Gods chosen people don't have a right to bear arms.

 

[rich stacy]

So a state can have slaves in this country if it wants? Same argument when it goes to the high court. Either FED overrides states in all cases or it does not.

US Constitution Amendment 13

 

[Flash]

This lady didn't shoot anybody. She was arrested for something that is legal in most other parts of this country.

Can a woman get a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion in Texas, because it's legal in California? That's the argument you're giving, as a rejection of states rights.

The woman in New York didn't stop to commit a crime. She stopped for gas and needed some money and asked a licensed firearms dealer if they wanted to buy something she had for sale. What the hell is wrong with that Moon Bat?

The problem with arrest is that the law is unjust and the officer was a dumbass government thug that didn't do the right thing.

The same kind of government thug in New York that took away the firearms from the man that went to the doctor about insomnia and the the same kind of thug that arrested the veteran for having two unloaded standard capacity AR magazines in the trunk of his car.

This is what happens when we trust Liberal with our Liberties. They always fuck it up.

 

[Flash]

So a state can have slaves in this country if it wants? Same argument when it goes to the high court. Either FED overrides states in all cases or it does not.

US Constitution Amendment 13

If the 13th Amendment protects you against a state allowing slavery then why doesn't it the 2nd Amendment protect you against a state infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms? Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? What does it say about infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms?

 

[rich stacy]

The lady that was arrested was not a criminal. She was a lady passing through the state. She committed no crime except what the filthy ass oppressive Liberals said she committed. Keeping arms. You know what that is, don't you? It is one of the things protected under the Bill of Rights.
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Saying the lady arrested was not a criminal, is obviously proven false by her arrest, and arraignment. Although not convicted, clear evidence of criminal behavior was presented to the judge. If we let everybody ho claimed ignorance of the law to break the law, we would have anarchy, clear and simple.

If you don't like the law, fight to change the law. Support the NRA and their fight to overturn laws like in Washington DC. The republicans in washington should have spent more time trying to overturn bad state gun laws, than Obamacare.

 

[rich stacy]

Since you want to use that analogy then you would agree that crooked Hillary was a psychopath that was committing security violation crimes but didn't believe she was doing anything wrong because, well, she was a Clinton and an elite and the laws shouldn't apply to her.

The e-mails did not have the required captions, stamps or marks, intended to make the fact a document is classified painfully obvious to even the most casual observer. Determining classification by content, while reasonable, is not a legal requirement.

Had the ladys guns, which she bought in Texas turned out to be stolen, if she could show she purchased them with the reasonable expectation of their being legal, she could not be additionally charged and convicted of possession of stolen merchendise.

Once more the requirement of intent is the foundation of proving criminality.

 

[Flash]

The lady that was arrested was not a criminal. She was a lady passing through the state. She committed no crime except what the filthy ass oppressive Liberals said she committed. Keeping arms. You know what that is, don't you? It is one of the things protected under the Bill of Rights.
.

Saying the lady arrested was not a criminal, is obviously proven false by her arrest, and arraignment. Although not convicted, clear evidence of criminal behavior was presented to the judge. If we let everybody ho claimed ignorance of the law to break the law, we would have anarchy, clear and simple.

If you don't like the law, fight to change the law. Support the NRA and their fight to overturn laws like in Washington DC. The republicans in washington should have spent more time trying to overturn bad state gun laws, than Obamacare.

The state of New York is made up of a bunch of really stupid Moon Bat Libtards that elect dumbasses that take away individual liberties protected under the Bill of Rights.

Democracy sometimes produces oppressive government the same as any other form of government. The SAFE Act in New York is a great example of that oppression.

 

[12icer]

Why cant the right to bear arms be given by GOD? ALL rights are given by God including the right of free choice. so praytell why can the right to bear arms be given to mankind at their births? No liberal bullshit will be accepted as it has all been shown as the pure fantasy of idiots.

For most of recorded history, the right to bear arms has been limited to agents of the government. There are only limited examples of it being given to the people, which would require god evoke it both recently and selectively.

Gods chosen people don't have a right to bear arms.

Liberal bullshit rewriting history AGAIN, even some of the "lesser" animals of earth use weapons. Your analysis is proof of your woeful lack of ANY facts concerning the subject. BBBZZZZZZZ. open the out door.

 

[rich stacy]

The woman in New York didn't stop to commit a crime. She stopped for gas and needed some money and asked a licensed firearms dealer if they wanted to buy something she had for sale. What the hell is wrong with that Moon Bat?

If she was driving through Nevada, she could have sold her body instead of her guns. but that's not the law where she was arrested. Every state, town and village has local laws, statutes and regulations. Ignorance of them doesn't free one of the responsibility to obey them.

 

[12icer]

So a state can have slaves in this country if it wants? Same argument when it goes to the high court. Either FED overrides states in all cases or it does not.

US Constitution Amendment 13

Not if there is wiggle room in the 2nd amendment, there is or there is NOT. If one state law can deny the rights of people under the constitution then so can ANY state law. Equality of all amendments to the Constitution is inherent.

 

[rich stacy]

If the 13th Amendment protects you against a state allowing slavery then why doesn't it the 2nd Amendment protect you against a state infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms? Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? What does it say about infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms?

The 13th's privileges and immensities, face the same limitations the NFA 1934 or GCA 1968 had. And Heller v DC upheld both of them.

 

[12icer]

The woman in New York didn't stop to commit a crime. She stopped for gas and needed some money and asked a licensed firearms dealer if they wanted to buy something she had for sale. What the hell is wrong with that Moon Bat?

If she was driving through Nevada, she could have sold her body instead of her guns. but that's not the law where she was arrested. Every state, town and village has local laws, statutes and regulations. Ignorance of them doesn't free one of the responsibility to obey them.

Does state law override the civil rights of a US citizen? If not then she should have been left alone. If so then a state can have slavery simply by writing a law.

 

[rich stacy]

Not if there is wiggle room in the 2nd amendment, there is or there is NOT. If one state law can deny the rights of people under the constitution then so can ANY state law. Equality of all amendments to the Constitution is inherent.

States have to grant the same privileges and immunities as the US Constitution. But states do not have to grant the same privileges and immunities of other states, if they are abhorant to their laws.

Until the federal government makes it legaly to carry firearms in all 50 states, the right doesn't transfer from one state to another.

 

[rich stacy]

Does state law override the civil rights of a US citizen? If not then she should have been left alone. If so then a state can have slavery simply by writing a law.

Heller v DC specifically upheld reasonable gun laws. Your argument is whether the New York law is reasonable, not if it's unconstitutional.

 

[12icer]

Not even, You need to grasp what KEEP and BEAR mean.

here are the amendments that apply to the FACTS.


AMENDMENT II


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

AMENDMENT IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

AMENDMENT XI - Passed by Congress March 4, 1794. Ratified February 7, 1795.

Note: Article III, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by amendment 11.

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

AMENDMENT XIII - Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.



AMENDMENT XIV - Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


XIV
2-3-4 have nothing to do with this thread.

 

[12icer]

Does state law override the civil rights of a US citizen? If not then she should have been left alone. If so then a state can have slavery simply by writing a law.

Heller v DC specifically upheld reasonable gun laws. Your argument is whether the New York law is reasonable, not if it's unconstitutional.

SO WHAT? Not even, there is NO reasonable gun law, But this type of gun law has been struck down many times before because it IS unconstitutional given the same Federal protection of the constitution.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It was simply a deflection by someone who cannot respond to the essential issue, and needs to prove to themselves something they feel is important. Clips and Magazines have the commonality of loading a firearm, magazines hold many more rounds which makes the weapon a more powerful penis in their hands.

Is that why you hate guns? Someone stuff one up your ass? Probably made a rotten gerbil explode.

Who says I hate guns? I believe they need to be regulated, and that means the people who want to own guns need to be licensed and insured.

As an angry misanthrope you seem to be very scared that a license and background check would put you on the NO BUY LIST.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I think probably just the magazine.

By the way, all "assault rifles" are modified so they can't be fired automatically before they are sold, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Despite claims to the contrary, the AR 15 is essentially a semi-auto M16, which has a selector to go from semi- to full. They take the same clip (magazine).

M-16s and AR-15s do not use clips. Your statement just outted you as an unreliable source.


You also forgot the M-4.

Does it upset smuthurt ashflakes when the non-pc word 'clip' is used? Does a gunner 'grammarnazi' stand ever ready at attention to shoot down all verbal 'error'?
Yes, an AR15 looks authentic to the other guys, shows how serious the bearer is. A mere semi-auto hunting rifle just doesn't say "ready to take on the U.S. Army" the way a replica M16 does.

It was simply a deflection by someone who cannot respond to the essential issue, and needs to prove to themselves something they feel is important. Clips and Magazines have the commonality of loading a firearm, magazines hold many more rounds which makes the weapon a more powerful penis in their hands.

And there it is.........we talk law, history.......they always end up with men's sex organs......they are truly messed up about sex...mention anything to do with guns...and they automatically start playing with themselves...

The real reason you guys are anti-gunners....come on...be honest.....you can't help but pleasure yourself when you see a gun....you feel dirty and disgusted at yourselves, but you can't stop it....so you need the society to get rid of guns...so you won't have those bad feelings when you see or talk about them....

You can get help...you just have to go and see the right mental health professionals......

Someone as dimwitted as you, and as obsessed with guns, ought not accuse anyone else of having mental health issues.