US aid to the sunami victims

Working Man

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I've been listening to the reports about the amount of money that the US has pledged to the victims of the sunamis. It certainly is a trajic loss of life and property. I mean no disrespect to anyone closely affected.

However, I do not agree that the US has to go further into debt in order to prove who can piss the farthest. The rhetoric being leveled at the US is clearly ill spirited. The US is spending way too much as it is on Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. The fate of the US dollar is looking dim as it is, while the same countries that point the finger at the United States as being "stingy" are actualy trying to put the pork to the US in the back door. :blah2:

Take $350 million in cash donations, and add in sending troops and equipment to the region. What are the real costs to deliver the services to the US taxpayer??? A hell of a lot more than a billion bucks!!!!! See the blackhawks flying in med supplies today on TV?? Wonder how much it cost to crew, support, and fly just one of these choppers 350 nautical miles????
The United Nutcases argument about the US being cheap is not only nonsense, but another reason why the whole notion about a UN is BS..And, not to say that the US hasn't used the UN to its own advantage when it could as well.. :(

Screw it. China has more money than the US. Let them flip the tab to make things right in the damaged area. If I caught the chart correctly on CNN, China was dead last on the list of contributers to the relief effort. Yet, as I have said numerous times on this BBS,,, the majority of products sitting on US retailer's shelves are marked "made in China". :piss2:
 
Working Man said:
Screw it. China has more money than the US. Let them flip the tab to make things right in the damaged area. If I caught the chart correctly on CNN, China was dead last on the list of contributers to the relief effort.

That would be the day! China at the top of the list of donors? If that should ever happen, a New Age truly would be dawning. One thing is for sure--China would never be cowed into upping their truly "stingy" contribution by what other nations thought of it.
 
Adam's Apple said:
That would be the day! China at the top of the list of donors? If that should ever happen, a New Age truly would be dawning. One thing is for sure--China would never be cowed into upping their truly "stingy" contribution by what other nations thought of it.

It's interesting that the most "socialist" behemoth among us appears to be the most stingy. Wonder what the libs have to say about that. Or are they too afraid to look at what is their obvious end result of their policies in the eye?
 
The stingy comment ticked me off, and from the UN no less. How much more did the U.S. provide in financial support compared to what was given to the U.S. after being slammed with 4 hurricanes? All of it would be the answer.

If the United States is going to be tagged as stingy, then we should be stingy. Instead of paying for almost 1/4 of the UN's operating costs, we should cut that back until we are only paying our fair share. Let's see how long they keep complaining then.
 
Jimmyeatworld said:
The stingy comment ticked me off, and from the UN no less. How much more did the U.S. provide in financial support compared to what was given to the U.S. after being slammed with 4 hurricanes? All of it would be the answer.

If the United States is going to be tagged as stingy, then we should be stingy. Instead of paying for almost 1/4 of the UN's operating costs, we should cut that back until we are only paying our fair share. Let's see how long they keep complaining then.

While i think we should deffinately cut UN funding i dont think we should stop being generous. If we stop being generous then they win and they are right we are what they accuse us of being. I dont want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Besides its the right thing to do. BTW i dont think we increased the ammount we are giving because we were accused of being stingy. I think we increased the ammount because the damage was worse than what we originally believed and it was appropriate.
 
bottomline, get the F' outta the UN. I wonder if i'll ever see the day in my lifetime. I know the media would portray it as the worst day in american history but we'd know better.
 
Working Man said:
I've been listening to the reports about the amount of money that the US has pledged to the victims of the sunamis. It certainly is a trajic loss of life and property. I mean no disrespect to anyone closely affected.

However, I do not agree that the US has to go further into debt in order to prove who can piss the farthest. The rhetoric being leveled at the US is clearly ill spirited. The US is spending way too much as it is on Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. The fate of the US dollar is looking dim as it is, while the same countries that point the finger at the United States as being "stingy" are actualy trying to put the pork to the US in the back door. :blah2:

Take $350 million in cash donations, and add in sending troops and equipment to the region. What are the real costs to deliver the services to the US taxpayer??? A hell of a lot more than a billion bucks!!!!! See the blackhawks flying in med supplies today on TV?? Wonder how much it cost to crew, support, and fly just one of these choppers 350 nautical miles????
The United Nutcases argument about the US being cheap is not only nonsense, but another reason why the whole notion about a UN is BS..And, not to say that the US hasn't used the UN to its own advantage when it could as well.. :(

Screw it. China has more money than the US. Let them flip the tab to make things right in the damaged area. If I caught the chart correctly on CNN, China was dead last on the list of contributers to the relief effort. Yet, as I have said numerous times on this BBS,,, the majority of products sitting on US retailer's shelves are marked "made in China". :piss2:
So what do you suggest? I'm curious .
 
Avatar4321 said:
While i think we should deffinately cut UN funding i dont think we should stop being generous. If we stop being generous then they win and they are right we are what they accuse us of being. I dont want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Besides its the right thing to do. BTW i dont think we increased the ammount we are giving because we were accused of being stingy. I think we increased the ammount because the damage was worse than what we originally believed and it was appropriate.

Funding for the tsunami victims and to help with that, fine. When it comes to funding the UN so they can bad mouth us and continue their operations of screwing us over with oil for food deals and saying we are stingy, then cut way the hell back. If we are doing nothing but paying what our fair share should be, then we have not become stingy.
 
dilloduck said:
So what do you suggest? I'm curious .

1) The US should be realistic in its eagerness to send aid. Our economy is on the skids. (((By the way,, when the folks in Sri Lanka are sewing up shirts and slacks for the American market, do you think they have the right to expect the laid off textile workers here in the US to be sympathetic and generous??)))

2) $350 million in cash and DELIVERED AID is worth more, much more than $500 in just cash. Two-Three battlegroups of US ships delivering water, food and medical support is worth more than the cash itself.

3) Where are the chinks in all this?? I have seen pictures of Austrailians and US troops delivering the packages of relief supplies, but no mention of China's forces delivering squat... I am not surprised either.
 
Working Man said:
1) The US should be realistic in its eagerness to send aid. Our economy is on the skids. (((By the way,, when the folks in Sri Lanka are sewing up shirts and slacks for the American market, do you think they have the right to expect the laid off textile workers here in the US to be sympathetic and generous??)))

The economy is not on the skids. You have a cold heart. Any questions?
 
Working Man said:
1) (((By the way,, when the folks in Sri Lanka are sewing up shirts and slacks for the American market, do you think they have the right to expect the laid off textile workers here in the US to be sympathetic and generous??)))

Do you mean the laid off immigrant textile workers? Cause if there are natural born citizens working in textile sweat shops they missed the education boat somewhere.
 

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