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What if the abuse never took place and it was a mad wife getting back at her husband? That's why we have courts, juries and judges.
No official in football can punish another for acts that were not proven. It would be wrong to fire Smith if Smith said it did not happen.
And, to add to the fact that Urban never witnessed the abuse, we and the university are depending on second hand information.
So is a coach guilty for the sins of another? I want to see the clause in his contract that places guilt of others on him.
What was he supposed you do when all of this is conjecture and wasn't witnessed by the coach or his wife?Meyer knew about it. And he did nothing. That is bad enough.
But then he lied about what he knew and tried to cover it up. That is what got Tressel fired too. Cover ups get more people than the actual events they try to cover up.
No morals clause demands a person to fire a subordinate without proof.
Ohio State places Urban Meyer on paid administrative leave
He apparently got entangled with a coach of his that beat his wife, now they will come after Urban.
He is only on leave currently, but in this lynch mob society the writing is pretty much on the wall.
Ohio State places Urban Meyer on paid administrative leave
He apparently got entangled with a coach of his that beat his wife, now they will come after Urban.
He is only on leave currently, but in this lynch mob society the writing is pretty much on the wall.
Urban Meyer's wife is the focal point of the investigation. You can't blame the sins of the wife on the husband.
has any one ever excaped that job with out being fired? I am glad I am not responsible for my employees after work! Looks like we are going to lose another good coach!Ohio State places Urban Meyer on paid administrative leave
He apparently got entangled with a coach of his that beat his wife, now they will come after Urban.
He is only on leave currently, but in this lynch mob society the writing is pretty much on the wall.
has any one ever excaped that job with out being fired? I am glad I am not responsible for my employees after work! Looks like we are going to lose another good coach!Ohio State places Urban Meyer on paid administrative leave
He apparently got entangled with a coach of his that beat his wife, now they will come after Urban.
He is only on leave currently, but in this lynch mob society the writing is pretty much on the wall.
You may be right. I just feel that these allegations should be proven before action is taken.has any one ever excaped that job with out being fired? I am glad I am not responsible for my employees after work! Looks like we are going to lose another good coach!Ohio State places Urban Meyer on paid administrative leave
He apparently got entangled with a coach of his that beat his wife, now they will come after Urban.
He is only on leave currently, but in this lynch mob society the writing is pretty much on the wall.
Two things will cost Urban his job.
#1 - He lied about what he knew and when he knew it.
#2 - His contract requires him to report even allegations of certain things, which includes domestic violence.
I'm not sure what I would do if I were his wife knowing that knowledge could mean his job. I feel she probably knew about the mandate to apprise the university and thought aboput that if she was aware of the strong loyalty he had for Smith.The biggest thing is that I think people in the administration will have trouble believing that Urban’s wife talked to the victim numerous times. Yet Urban wants us to believe that she never mentioned to him once in 3 years.
I would guess that Urban Meyer is toast. What a shame.What was he supposed you do when all of this is conjecture and wasn't witnessed by the coach or his wife?Meyer knew about it. And he did nothing. That is bad enough.
But then he lied about what he knew and tried to cover it up. That is what got Tressel fired too. Cover ups get more people than the actual events they try to cover up.
No morals clause demands a person to fire a subordinate without proof.
According to the USAToday, there was a clause added to Meyer's contract when he got his last raise.
from: New contract provisions could pose problem as Ohio State's Urban Meyer is placed on leave
"To the section covering Meyer’s specific duties and responsibilities, a provision was added that reads in part: "Coach shall promptly report to Ohio State’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator for Athletics any known violations of Ohio State’s Sexual Misconduct Policy (including, but not limited to, sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty, or staff that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event."
"For the purposes of this provision, the contract states, "a 'known violation' shall mean a violation or an allegation of a violation of Title IX that Coach is aware of or has reasonable cause to believe is taking place or may have taken place."
What if the abuse never took place and it was a mad wife getting back at her husband? That's why we have courts, juries and judges.
No official in football can punish another for acts that were not proven. It would be wrong to fire Smith if Smith said it did not happen.
And, to add to the fact that Urban never witnessed the abuse, we and the university are depending on second hand information.
So is a coach guilty for the sins of another? I want to see the clause in his contract that places guilt of others on him.
What if the abuse never took place and it was a mad wife getting back at her husband? That's why we have courts, juries and judges.
No official in football can punish another for acts that were not proven. It would be wrong to fire Smith if Smith said it did not happen.
And, to add to the fact that Urban never witnessed the abuse, we and the university are depending on second hand information.
So is a coach guilty for the sins of another? I want to see the clause in his contract that places guilt of others on him.
I think the "The woman made it up!" thing is long gone.
from: Records show history of domestic incidents between former Ohio State receivers coach Zach Smith and ex-wife
"Nine reports obtained from Powell police involving Zach Smith and/or Courtney Smith between the dates of January 1, 2012 and July 26, 2018 involve domestic disputes between the Smiths, who divorced in 2016. That includes an alleged incident of domestic abuse on Oct. 25, 2015."
ESPN is a fucking commie joke. Everything Meyer did was by the book. There was a reason I had not watched espn in a year.
Just put it on and now i remember why.
What if the abuse never took place and it was a mad wife getting back at her husband? That's why we have courts, juries and judges.
No official in football can punish another for acts that were not proven. It would be wrong to fire Smith if Smith said it did not happen.
And, to add to the fact that Urban never witnessed the abuse, we and the university are depending on second hand information.
So is a coach guilty for the sins of another? I want to see the clause in his contract that places guilt of others on him.
I think the "The woman made it up!" thing is long gone.
from: Records show history of domestic incidents between former Ohio State receivers coach Zach Smith and ex-wife
"Nine reports obtained from Powell police involving Zach Smith and/or Courtney Smith between the dates of January 1, 2012 and July 26, 2018 involve domestic disputes between the Smiths, who divorced in 2016. That includes an alleged incident of domestic abuse on Oct. 25, 2015."
The police were called many times by Courtney and the police never saw an iota of evidence of abuse. Otherwise, they would have arrested him. But you're saying Urban should have fired him anyway? Lol.
What if the abuse never took place and it was a mad wife getting back at her husband? That's why we have courts, juries and judges.
No official in football can punish another for acts that were not proven. It would be wrong to fire Smith if Smith said it did not happen.
And, to add to the fact that Urban never witnessed the abuse, we and the university are depending on second hand information.
So is a coach guilty for the sins of another? I want to see the clause in his contract that places guilt of others on him.
I think the "The woman made it up!" thing is long gone.
from: Records show history of domestic incidents between former Ohio State receivers coach Zach Smith and ex-wife
"Nine reports obtained from Powell police involving Zach Smith and/or Courtney Smith between the dates of January 1, 2012 and July 26, 2018 involve domestic disputes between the Smiths, who divorced in 2016. That includes an alleged incident of domestic abuse on Oct. 25, 2015."
The police were called many times by Courtney and the police never saw an iota of evidence of abuse. Otherwise, they would have arrested him. But you're saying Urban should have fired him anyway? Lol.
