Update on Mass Teacher Firings.

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    1. CENTRAL FALLS, R.I. – The teachers at Central Falls High School struck a deal to get their jobs back last year after the entire staff was fired in a radical, last-ditch attempt to raise student performance. But if the administrators thought the teachers would be grateful for a second chance, they were wrong.

    2. Many teachers aren't showing up for work, often calling out sick. Several abruptly quit within the first few weeks of the school year. Administrators have had to scramble to find qualified substitutes and have withheld hundreds of student grades because of the teacher absences.

    3. The problems come despite a labor agreement that union leaders and administrators in this poor, heavily immigrant city trumpeted as a breakthrough at Central Falls High, a struggling school of roughly 840 students where just 7 percent of 11th-graders were proficient in math in 2009.

    4. Exactly what's causing all the problems is unclear, but both sides acknowledge lingering discontent over the firings and the changes that followed.President Barack Obama appeared to endorse the firings, saying drastic action may be warranted when schools show no signs of improvement.

    a. Following months of negotiations, the teachers were rehired after agreeing to work a longer school day, undergo more rigorous evaluations and provide more after-school tutoring. At the time, Gist said the changes would result in "dramatic achievement."


    5. Richard Kinslow, an English teacher who has not been calling out sick, said a new management team that was put in place was inexperienced and failed to offer support for teachers or crack down on rampant discipline problems, including what he said were physical and verbal assaults on staff members by students.

    6. "We don't have a sense of clarity from our leadership. We don't have a clear sense of their mission or their vision. Communication has been, again, awful," Kinslow said. "If I'm going to be thrown into the bus by my supposed leaders every day, where is my hope? Where is my sense of team? Why would I be working?" Troubled RI school hits bumps on road to reform - Yahoo! News


    This, in microcosm, represents the problems of many of the nations' schools.
    Anybody see a solution?
     
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    How they gloss over the fact that the school was "heavily immigrant". Just how many spoke English?

    Where was leadership when discipline and behavior was out of control? Did they have ways of dealing with this?

    Teachers being threatened and attacked? What person would stand for that? We worry about students being bullied, what about teachers?

    Obama didn't look beyond the nose on his face. "Fire the teachers!"

    Hogwash. The students who can't speak English have no business in school until they can speak the the language. When students are discipline problems, they are out. Get the parents in to sit with the babies.

    The principals saw the test scores. Were they oblivious to the fact that 11% could do math? Where were they when the teachers were passing them on instead of failing them?

    Fire the teachers! Right Obama, you're really analyzing problems aren't you.
     
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    Adding to oddball's point....getting gov't out of the education system would be the first improvement, and the most successful improvement.
    Everything else....window dressing.
     
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    Vouchers attached to the child.
     
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    Further adding to oddball's point.......99% of the problems in education stem from the lack of parental involvement. Period.
     
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    It will take YEARS to fix that school. They are going to have to start with the little guys and force the parents to be involved. And parents of small children are more easily persuaded.

    The older students who are illiterate, truant, undisciplined and passed along their whole school careers aren't going to change over night. That is a learned behavior.
     
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    So where's all those LIFETIME JOBS that some of you imagine teachers have?

    How can they be fired if they TENURE?

    See?

    Everything many of you THINK YOU KNOW about the teaching profession is a load of right wing anti-union NONSENSE.;

    Teachers have the highest turnover of ANY profession.

    I do not know of a single k-12 teacher who cannot be fired.

    Not one.
     
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    Since the subject of Tenure applies specifically to New Jersey perhaps in THIS thread you will inform us of what that State has a Tenure laws? Obviously this school district in this Article does not have such a system.
     
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    Wrong thread. This is about RI.
     

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