Upcoming Israeli Elections

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    Crime and community investment...

    They came to President Rivlin with Osama Sa'adi who's extended family member, a young pregnant woman was murdered at their wedding only 2 weeks ago, reaching more than 60 fatalities due to family disputes since the beginning of the year, just in the Sa'adi family alone. So they came to turn the blame on the govt, which they are not even prepared to join.

    MK's Aiman Odeh and Ahmad Tibi opened with accusation of racism, and openly stated they would do anything to overthrow PM Netanyahu. Ahmad Tibi closed with "we are not citizens in this state, we are the owners" and as if apologized to their electorate, explaining the only reason they even give a recommendation for the assembly is because "we will do anything to overthrow Netanyahu".

    Then Mansour Abbas, of the Islamic Movement talked about the "sickness" that needs to be cured,
    in that the Waqf should be allowed to apply all over the land, swiftly mentioning the Al Aqsa mosque "status quo".

    Coyote, they demanded to head the Finance committee, which includes Defense budget,
    and the Interior committee which is responsible for all infrastructure planning, border control, and local government. That's only for a recommendation to the President to assemble a govt, and just the 1st of the demands on the list.

    The $18bil community budget demand, so that You have some context, is to a party that promised to take $300mil from the Orthodox Education as a solution to the housing problem.

    That's just racket bordering insanity.
    With all these demands and much more, they're not talking about joining Blue and White to form coalition with the 3 IDF generals, so what do they provide in the current equation?
     
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    Avigdor Lieberman - "The Joint List are enemies;
    We won't recommend Gantz or anyone else"

    "Regarding our recommendation to the President, all of Israel Beyteynu faction sat for hours all together, and I think reached the same conclusion - from our side all our commitments to our voters are iron, and we do not intend on moving from them to any direction. The moment Binyamin Netanyahu and the Likud decided to close the block with the Orthodox parties, and with the "Messianic bunch", we cannot recommend Netanyahu, and we cannot be part of this coalition. Also regarding the chair of Blue and White Benny Gantz, from everything that we see today it's clear he's keeping the option of forming a govt with the Orthodox parties and the Joint List.

    Regarding the Orthodox we've already said, and I emphasize that the Orthodox parties are political opponents, not an enemy.

    Regarding the Joint List, it's explicitly enemies.
    This is not political opponents, this is enemies, and wherever they are,
    we will be on the opposite side."

     
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    Is it likely Netanyahu could be PM again?

    This is what I don't understand - if he is facing imminent corruption charges in court - how can he even be considered in the running? Doesn't that anger people? Corruption would be pretty serious coming from a head of state imo.
     
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    If you think accepting Cuban cigars as a gift is a serious offense.
     
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    Only HaShem knows.

    Understand this simple principle - if all it took to take out a candidate was to press charges, then it would invite abuse of the judiciary system under a political premise, thus making the election institution void.

    Provoking anger is a common tool in politics, another no less important tool is constructive criticism, different people are motivated by different combinations of both. What You call "anger" might be associated with something completely different that they may not like about PM Netanyahu's decisions.
    You can look at this from a different perspective - even under such uneasy circumstances and with so much criticism from all sides, majority of the nation still voted for him, and for parties that recommend him to form the govt.

    What may anger the opponents of PM Netanyahu, is that after all the efforts to raise the "Only not Bibi" flag they're left to depend on the anti-Zionist Joint List, to not even reach anywhere close to majority but merely stay in the game, and that everything he warned about happens before our eyes.
     
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    How about all the corrupt leaders in the Arab and African nations who execute anyone who wants to accuse them of even the smallest crimes?
     
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    But it isn’t just pressing charges isn’t it? There has to be sufficient evidence for it to go to court right?

    From my perspective I could not imagine supporting a candidate that was facing those charges on the one hand and planning to legislate it so he would not have to face those charges.
     
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    What about them? They are a huge problem for their countries. Are you trying to say corruption is acceptable if you like the corrupt guy?
     
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    Is that what it is?

    Investigations involving Benjamin Netanyahu - Wikipedia
    The first of the investigations, dubbed "Case 1000", opened officially in December 2016. This investigation looked into valuable presents and gifts received by Netanyahu, and his family throughout the years from several known wealthy acquaintances of the family.

    • "Case 2000" deals with recorded conversations Netanyahu had with the publisher of Yedioth Ahronoth, one of the largest newspapers in circulation in Israel. During these conversations Netanyahu is believed to have proposed to push legislation harming Yedioth's major competitor, Israel Hayom, in exchange for more flattering and positive coverage of himself in Yedioth.
    • "Case 3000" does not directly involve Netanyahu, as it involves a list of businessmen, lawyers, and officials in the security organizations in Israel, and their connection to a deal made between Israel and Germany in what may be a bribed deal, for the purchase of three Dolphin-class submarines and four Sa'ar 6-class corvette warships. Some of these individuals are related to Netanyahu due to professional or family ties.
    • "Case 4000" regards telecommunications company Bezeq's relationship with its regulator, the communication ministry (Netanyahu being the minister until February 2017), and favorable coverage to Netanyahu in Walla!.
    • Case "1270" is an offshoot of "4000" and involves an alleged appointment bribe offer to an Attorney General of Israelcandidate in exchange for dropping a case against Netanyahu's wife.
     
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    I’m explicit stating that you are very picky when it comes to Israel.
    Heck, Congress accepts bribes all day and I don’t hear a peep out of you.
     

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