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You're wasting your breath Max. If I said, "the sky is blue," these geniuses would argue with me. Anyway, thanks for clarifying my astoundingly incomprehensible argument for those who just couldn't get it.Max Power said:I think the idea is not that THIS guy should be spared punishment, but that the punishment is not fitting to the crime (in general).
Having drugs shouldn't be a capitol crime. I mean, I'm sure that if we killed everyone who disobeyed the speed limit, there would be less speeding on the highways, but would the ends justify the means?
Yeah, because he'll be dead.Mr. P said:No, as I stated early in the thread, its a deterrent. Wanna bet he doesnt do it again?
How wonderful. 
Do I sense hostility kitten?Shattered said:They're illegal. Period. Since you're missing one important part.. I'll turn up the volume:
Don't break the freakin law if you don't want to pay the price!
Hagbard Celine said:You're wasting your breath Max. If I said, "the sky is blue," these geniuses would argue with me. Anyway, thanks for clarifying my astoundingly incomprehensible argument for those who just couldn't get it.
No cutesy here bud. I just blew yer argument out of the water.Hagbard Celine said:Whatever man, put all cutesy, semantic arguments aside, you and I both know treason and doing drugs are on totally different sides of the spectrum.
Hagbard Celine said:Do I sense hostility kitten?
Hagbard Celine said:It's a non-violent crime genius.
Hagbard Celine said:Because he's being murdered for having drugs. It's an injustice.
Shattered said:They're illegal. Period. Since you're missing one important part.. I'll turn up the volume:
Don't break the freakin law if you don't want to pay the price!
GunnyL said:Think he heard you?
No you didn't, you think you did. The violent potential of treason doesn't equal the violence potential of doing drugs. By your logic, illegally parking next to a fire hydrant is a violent crime because it could result in people's deaths because the car was blocking the hydrant. Treason is a direct threat to the federal government. The government is authorized by the people to use deadly force to defend itself because a direct threat to the government is a direct threat to the security of the people. A guy doing drugs on his vacation isn't a threat to anybody's way of life.Mr. P said:No cutesy here bud. I just blew yer arguement out of the water.
Ooh, "dipshit." Don't burst any blood vessels using such big words Gunny. The point is that non-violent crimes don't deserve death sentences. Isn't it obvious? Why do I have to spell it out for you?GunnyL said:What's your point, dipshit?
Hagbard Celine said:No you didn't, you think you did. The violent potential of treason doesn't equal the violence potential of doing drugs. By your logic, illegally parking next to a fire hydrant is a violent crime because it could result in people's deaths because the car was blocking the hydrant. Treason is a direct threat to the federal government. The government is authorized by the people to use deadly force to defend itself because a direct threat to the government is a direct threat to the security of the people. A guy doing drugs on his vacation isn't a threat to anybody's way of life.
Yea well, not that I disagree with the premise max, but many people think 5-10 is to harsh for certain crimes too, so what?Max Power said:I think the idea is not that THIS guy should be spared punishment, but that the punishment is not fitting to the crime (in general).
Having drugs shouldn't be a capitol crime. I mean, I'm sure that if we killed everyone who disobeyed the speed limit, there would be less speeding on the highways, but would the ends justify the means?
Kathianne said:OK HC and Max, are you also willing to argue that Sharia law should be outlawed in Islamic countries because of the barbarity of the punishments via the 'crimes'? Or are you progressive enough to say that it's their countries and they should be able to set their own laws and systems of justice?
So who gets to decide the laws for all countries? You? On what basis do you know best?Max Power said:Injustice knows no borders.
It's not my logic, MORON!!! it was yours. And this guy wasn't "Just doing drugs on vacation" :rotflmao:Hagbard Celine said:No you didn't, you think you did. The violent potential of treason doesn't equal the violence potential of doing drugs. By your logic, illegally parking next to a fire hydrant is a violent crime because it could result in people's deaths because the car was blocking the hydrant. Treason is a direct threat to the federal government. The government is authorized by the people to use deadly force to defend itself because a direct threat to the government is a direct threat to the security of the people. A guy doing drugs on his vacation isn't a threat to anybody's way of life.
