Universal health care

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    Here ya go, Universal health care and its results.

    Hawaii ending universal child health care - Yahoo! News

    That was just for children and the State quit after 7 months. One reason? The people that could afford their own were joining the free State sponsored program and canceling their coverage.
     
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    Diuretic Permanently confused

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    Funny how it works elsewhere. Hawaii is incompetent.

    Republican?
     
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    Not likely.
     
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    Congress of Hawaii.

    Senate 25 members 21 are Democrat 4 are Republican

    House 49 members 42 are Democrat 7 are republican.

    Did not see the affiliation of Governor or Lt Governor but it is safe to assume they are Democrats I think.

    Hawaii.gov
     
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    I would be wrong, seems the Governor and Lt Governor are republicans.
     
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    Yes.

    A republican governor and her political appointees don't like it on ideological grounds, not because they can't afford it. It costs peanuts.

    50k a month? That's peanuts. I bet the governor's office coffee and pencil budget costs about the same.
     
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    Yeah, this is another of the reasons that I insist that the only way to provide complete coverage for everyone is to have complete socialistic health care.

    If private HC insurers are around competing with a government sponsored HC insurer, the private companies can and will cherrypick their clients such that they end up covering the healthiest population while leaving the old and sickly to the government insurance scheme to carry.

    So those parents were just doing what was rational for them personally.

    Obviously the government system was cheaper for them, and so naturally they gravitated to it.

    Maine's health care system is in trouble, too, just as I said it would become.

    It's taken on more responsibility than it has money to pay for.

    The ONLY way we're going to have 100% HC coverage is if we have a fully socialized health care system.

    And yes, by that I mean that the HC providers will work directly for the government.

    Every other quasi-socialistic scheme my fellow liberals cobble together is bound to fail.
     
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    If you read the article, its clear the republican adminstration is getting rid of it on ideological grounds.

    They claim that its not working as intended, and that people who could get private insurance are signing up.

    So the fuck what? That WAS the intent of the program, and what parent wouldn't want to get cheaper insurance for their child?

    The cost of the program was 50k a month. Do you know how little 50k a month is in a state budget? Peanuts. The Governor could axe a a few limosines from her state car fleet to cover that cost.
     
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    editec, you are correct.

    The system that works best is a single payer system. There are inherent cost savings to a single payer system because you cut out liability lawyers, insurance companies, and Big Pharma. It is not socialism because the doctors still own their own practices.

    Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org
     
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    I can't wait to have to wait 3 months to get an mri, or 6-9 months to get procedures. Universal Health is fantastic.

    Thats why the first private hospital in Canada opened up and is turning patients away cause they are soo busy.
     

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