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Ex-NSA Director US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind
That letter was written by a guy with a political agenda against President Obama and he is not taken seriously. Perhaps you are not permitted to read about captured Russian soldiers and mothers in Russia protesting their sons coming home in body bags or injured from Ukraine. And perhaps you are not aware of admissions of Russians in Ukraine with the excuse that they are "on leave" and "vacation" and "volunteers".
Of course he should not shut up and has a right to voice his opinion and say whatever he wants to say. But people who write of speak with such obvious political leanings or agenda's and omit pertinent facts are not taken very seriously. I was just putting the letter you posted in perspective. We have access here from the international press and even some Russian press that has shown us the mothers protesting their sons being sent to Ukraine. We have seen articles about burials of Russian soldiers and injured soldiers. We have seen interviews of captured Russian soldiers. When the so called invasion began the separatist were led by "former" Russian military and security officers.[QUOTE="Camp, post: 9859811, member: 44680"
Ex-NSA Director US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind
That letter was written by a guy with a political agenda against President Obama and he is not taken seriously. Perhaps you are not permitted to read about captured Russian soldiers and mothers in Russia protesting their sons coming home in body bags or injured from Ukraine. And perhaps you are not aware of admissions of Russians in Ukraine with the excuse that they are "on leave" and "vacation" and "volunteers".
FYI, volunteers from several countries are fighting for both sides, it's no secret.
And according to the polls more than half of the country does not support Obama, should they all just shut up till the next Presidential election???
We do here about those guys, but the mothers aren't protesting because those guys volunteered and they weren't soldiers in those counties armies. They were and are civilian volunteers.Why haven't you seen Polish, Lithuanian, Georgian, American (BlackWaters) and mothers from many other countries who's sons were fighting for Kiev junta's side? Whole bunch of IDs from those countries were found. Why do they only show you Russian mothers? Smells like propaganda and brainwash...
I'm not aware about any mothers' protests in Russia, I've seen hundreds of mothers in several areas of Ukraine for several days blocking the main roads and demanding their sons back from the war. Those protests were going on for a long time
forces on counterinsurgency and military planning tactics. of the Ukraine Ministry of Defense, Ms. Lainez told The Washington Times.
Has Obama prosecuted James Risen on his birthday yet?Did Putin kill a journalist for this year's birthday celebration?
And for how long will he be free? Point being that the U.S. government is no friend to a free and adversarial press either.Last I heard he was still alive and "at large," kevin. any other digressions you'd like to add?
If you have any information on the US govt assassinating reporters, post it, or stfu. Yes the US govt is not happy with "leaks." Sgt Manning is in jail, but receiving decent treatment, and soldiers cannot disobey orders. Snowden .... he'd have done time, but I don't think public opinion in the US would allow for him being sentenced like Pollard. There's a distinction you are dishonestly attempting to evade.And for how long will he be free? Point being that the U.S. government is no friend to a free and adversarial press either.Last I heard he was still alive and "at large," kevin. any other digressions you'd like to add?
UN Torture Chief 8217 s Report Officially Condemns US Treatment of Bradley Manning The DissenterIf you have any information on the US govt assassinating reporters, post it, or stfu. Yes the US govt is not happy with "leaks." Sgt Manning is in jail, but receiving decent treatment, and soldiers cannot disobey orders. Snowden .... he'd have done time, but I don't think public opinion in the US would allow for him being sentenced like Pollard. There's a distinction you are dishonestly attempting to evade.And for how long will he be free? Point being that the U.S. government is no friend to a free and adversarial press either.Last I heard he was still alive and "at large," kevin. any other digressions you'd like to add?
I don't know that Putin can disengage from Ukraine. I don't think there's any disagreement amongst non Russians that Putin's goals are to stay in power, and either as part of that end, or sheer patriotism, he does not want Russia folded into a capitalist, private property state in the European markets because .... Russia's economy is smaller than Belgium, and aside for energy it cannot produce anything. Russians take pride in being a world power. But, Russia can't produce anything because the powers of capital exist solely to the Oligarchs who only answer to Putin, who allows them to keep the capital so long as they swear allegiance to him, personally. He sees, quite clearly, that being in a union with a post-soviet state is not attractive to former soviet cold bloc "republics." So, the West is creeping eastward. And now, Putin is taking from one Oligarch to prop up another who suffers from sanctions.
There needs to be a way to let him out of the box he's in. But, the problem is that negotiation is premised upon all players wanting the same end result, so they compromise and achieve less than their full agenda. The West can pressure Ukraine to offer decent civil protections to ethnic Russians, but it's not really about that. It's about Russia's sphere of economic influence and trade. Some in the EU would be happy to let Putin dominate Ukraine, which offers the West little beyond natl gas, which no doubt is part of Putin's goal. But, Putin would dearly love to have the Baltics back in Russian orbit.
