United States and China officials have agreed to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit

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Worth repeating 1000 times, when America decides to lead and use it's leverage, economic and if needed in some cases Internationally, it's military Might, the world has to follow.

I didn't doubt for a second that if Trump negotiated from a position of strength, which America has over the Communist sob's in China; that he would win.

I repeat for effect, walk away from NAFTA, Canada is exploiting your jobs and using you to supplement their socialism, neo-communist, centralized, unaccountable security apparatus nepotism. Walk away from NAFTA and go with bilateral deals, and then build a wall, and Trump will go get a second term, AND, against all odds, go down as the president who saved America.

This AND North Korea potentially becoming denuclearized.

Get 'er done Trump! God Bless America!



US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House


The White House also said China would “significantly increase purchases” of U.S. goods and services to help America’s economic growth and to meet its own growing consumption needs, in an apparent effort to avoid an international trade war.

Among the primary focuses of the consensus: an agreement to expand trade in manufactured goods and services, increase U.S. agriculture and energy exports, and protect both countries’ intellectual property laws.

The White House also said next steps would include the U.S. sending a team to China to work out the details.

President Trump has since his 2016 presidential campaign vowed to improve international trade relationships, including the one with China that last year resulted in a $337 billion trade deficit with the country.

Trump on Friday called the deal "bad for our country” and said, “We're changing it around."

After the White House announcement, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer suggested the agreement falls short on protecting America’s intellectual property.

“The key to a strong agreement is protecting our intellectual property here in America and stopping the Chinese from keeping out our best goods until we hand over our trade secrets,” said Schumer, D-N.Y. “The joint statement has nothing specific on those fronts.”

China recently appears to be sending signals about trying to avoid a trade war.

Beijing has dropped an anti-dumping investigation into imported U.S. sorghum, which it had accused the U.S. of unfairly subsidizing. It has also given approval for a U.S. private equity firm to buy Toshiba's memory chip business.

"China has come to trade," Larry Kudlow, the top White House economic adviser, told reporters. "They are meeting many of our demands. No deal yet, to be sure, and it's probably going to take a while -- it's a process."
 
I have to wonder if N. Korea and China decided to play Trump's game for the next 6 months. I know this concept is way too abstract for most Republican Supporters here to understand, but I wouldn't be surprised to see XI and KIM try to manipulate our election, and keep chaos alive.
 
I have to wonder if N. Korea and China decided to play Trump's game for the next 6 months. I know this concept is way too abstract for most Republican Supporters here to understand, but I wouldn't be surprised to see XI and KIM try to manipulate our election, and keep chaos alive.

Please elaborate on this idea, I don't know how they can manipulate any more than so many other countries tried in 2016. Far too many have been exploiting America, Trumps victory should be celebrated as it proved the global socialists can't ruin America.

Do your part, please. These Communist sob's from China cannot be allowed to become the sole Super Power.
 
Worth repeating 1000 times, when America decides to lead and use it's leverage, economic and if needed in some cases Internationally, it's military Might, the world has to follow.

I didn't doubt for a second that if Trump negotiated from a position of strength, which America has over the Communist sob's in China; that he would win.

I repeat for effect, walk away from NAFTA, Canada is exploiting your jobs and using you to supplement their socialism, neo-communist, centralized, unaccountable security apparatus nepotism. Walk away from NAFTA and go with bilateral deals, and then build a wall, and Trump will go get a second term, AND, against all odds, go down as the president who saved America.

This AND North Korea potentially becoming denuclearized.

Get 'er done Trump! God Bless America!



US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House


The White House also said China would “significantly increase purchases” of U.S. goods and services to help America’s economic growth and to meet its own growing consumption needs, in an apparent effort to avoid an international trade war.

Among the primary focuses of the consensus: an agreement to expand trade in manufactured goods and services, increase U.S. agriculture and energy exports, and protect both countries’ intellectual property laws.

The White House also said next steps would include the U.S. sending a team to China to work out the details.

President Trump has since his 2016 presidential campaign vowed to improve international trade relationships, including the one with China that last year resulted in a $337 billion trade deficit with the country.

Trump on Friday called the deal "bad for our country” and said, “We're changing it around."

After the White House announcement, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer suggested the agreement falls short on protecting America’s intellectual property.

“The key to a strong agreement is protecting our intellectual property here in America and stopping the Chinese from keeping out our best goods until we hand over our trade secrets,” said Schumer, D-N.Y. “The joint statement has nothing specific on those fronts.”

China recently appears to be sending signals about trying to avoid a trade war.

Beijing has dropped an anti-dumping investigation into imported U.S. sorghum, which it had accused the U.S. of unfairly subsidizing. It has also given approval for a U.S. private equity firm to buy Toshiba's memory chip business.

"China has come to trade," Larry Kudlow, the top White House economic adviser, told reporters. "They are meeting many of our demands. No deal yet, to be sure, and it's probably going to take a while -- it's a process."






It is nice that Trump is making a deal, to address the situation.

But China's words have zero credibility.


I will not consider it a firm win, until I see the Trade Deficit actually drop.

IF Trump can do this, he will go down as one of the Greatest Presidents this Nation has ever had.
 
What I read is that China has agreed to import more goods from the US but no specific numbers as yet are set. Also nothing yet on lessening import duties etc.

But hey let's give credit where it is due! Without Donald Trump calling them out for the obvious trade imbalances, a.k.a non-fair trade, we would be getting the shaft like we have been for decades. It's like Trump said, you can't blame the foreign countries if America is going to be a patsy.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans. :)
 
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United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

And China said that the White House is full of shit and did not agree to such things.

You rubes believe everything you are told. If Trump came out tomorrow and told you it was good to eat your own shit, you would take a dump on a piece of bread and eat it.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.

The trade deficit is a totally irrelevant dollar amount.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.

The trade deficit is a totally irrelevant dollar amount.


So, why so much resistance to reversing it?



Why do foreign leaders fight it so much?



Just give US what Trump wants, and then in 5 years when nothing has changed, you can point out what losers we are.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?
 
I have to wonder if N. Korea and China decided to play Trump's game for the next 6 months. I know this concept is way too abstract for most Republican Supporters here to understand, but I wouldn't be surprised to see XI and KIM try to manipulate our election, and keep chaos alive.

Please elaborate on this idea, I don't know how they can manipulate any more than so many other countries tried in 2016. Far too many have been exploiting America, Trumps victory should be celebrated as it proved the global socialists can't ruin America.

Do your part, please. These Communist sob's from China cannot be allowed to become the sole Super Power.

This time it is simple. All XI and Kim need to do is pretend Trump's Brinkmanship has been successful, and after the election do what Kim did last week, and change the rhetoric and prove they did not blink. They will have manipulated American voters who listened to Trump take credit, and then support him and return the do nothing Congress to power.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?

Not yet...but I will keep watching for actual sustainable achievements. It really would be good to make some major changes in trade with China - but it's not the trade deficit that is at issue and it's not just us that is pissed at China's trade policies. A smart president would work with other countries to collectively pressure China to make the needed changes. Don't see that happening yet though.
 
I have to wonder if N. Korea and China decided to play Trump's game for the next 6 months. I know this concept is way too abstract for most Republican Supporters here to understand, but I wouldn't be surprised to see XI and KIM try to manipulate our election, and keep chaos alive.

Please elaborate on this idea, I don't know how they can manipulate any more than so many other countries tried in 2016. Far too many have been exploiting America, Trumps victory should be celebrated as it proved the global socialists can't ruin America.

Do your part, please. These Communist sob's from China cannot be allowed to become the sole Super Power.

This time it is simple. All XI and Kim need to do is pretend Trump's Brinkmanship has been successful, and after the election do what Kim did last week, and change the rhetoric and prove they did not blink. They will have manipulated American voters who listened to Trump take credit, and then support him and return the do nothing Congress to power.


And President Trump, just slaps heavy tariffs on their exports.


Your hypothetical plan for them is rife with danger.


It only makes sense if they believe that Trump was inches away from slapping the tariffs on them right now.


ANd they are desperately playing for time.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?

Not yet...but I will keep watching for actual sustainable achievements. It really would be good to make some major changes in trade with China - but it's not the trade deficit that is at issue and it's not just us that is pissed at China's trade policies. A smart president would work with other countries to collectively pressure China to make the needed changes. Don't see that happening yet though.
Why would other countries want to get involved with the trade issues we have with China?
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?

Not yet...but I will keep watching for actual sustainable achievements. It really would be good to make some major changes in trade with China - but it's not the trade deficit that is at issue and it's not just us that is pissed at China's trade policies. A smart president would work with other countries to collectively pressure China to make the needed changes. Don't see that happening yet though.
Why would other countries want to get involved with the trade issues we have with China?


Because China is fucking them too.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?

Not yet...but I will keep watching for actual sustainable achievements. It really would be good to make some major changes in trade with China - but it's not the trade deficit that is at issue and it's not just us that is pissed at China's trade policies. A smart president would work with other countries to collectively pressure China to make the needed changes. Don't see that happening yet though.
Why would other countries want to get involved with the trade issues we have with China?

Because they aren't just our issues, and collectively addressing them gives us more power to pressure China. Unfortunately...China has a lot of leverage, and it's been building for a while.
 
United States and China officials have agreed this weekend to take steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit, the White House said Saturday.
The agreement between the world's two biggest economies was made this week in Washington by high-level negotiators from both countries, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

“There was a consensus on taking effective measures to substantially reduce the United States trade deficit in goods with China,” the White House said, in what it described as a joint statement with China.
US, China tentatively agree on ending American trade deficit: White House

Damn... its nice to finally have a smart president working for Americans and isn't a pussy. :)

Except...that's not the real issue. In fact it's almost a non-issue. The trade DEFICIT is not THE problem. It's that China's economy remains largely closed to us, it's business' are heavily subsidized by the government and worse - it demands any foreign companies share proprietary information which is stolen and used.

Big issues and harder to fix then a trade deficit.
Does that mean you aren't seeing the progress being made by Trump?

Not yet...but I will keep watching for actual sustainable achievements. It really would be good to make some major changes in trade with China - but it's not the trade deficit that is at issue and it's not just us that is pissed at China's trade policies. A smart president would work with other countries to collectively pressure China to make the needed changes. Don't see that happening yet though.
Why would other countries want to get involved with the trade issues we have with China?


Because China is fucking them too.

:lol: well...that's one (blunt) way of putting it!
 

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